Why are Armenians white but Turks are not?

**catgeorge** · 05-01-2021, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by placebo

please shut the fuck up and keep on suck eu dick.

Your grandmother, your great grand mother or great great grand mother was a whore. Is it any surprise the holy capital you now call Istanbul is the capital of homosexualism. Your are sons of whores from the Satan.

..but my bloodline is from the army of Satan to eradicate sons of whores and Islamic waste.

**Armenian Bishop** · 05-01-2021, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by NSXD60

Because Mannix had a Black secretary who considered him White and it's been carte blanche ever since.

Mike Connors, also known as Krekor Ohanian (1925-2017), was the actor who starred as Detective Joe Mannix, in the Mannix TV Serries. The Surname Ohanian translates into English, as Johnson. Mike Connors came from a Fresno, California, Armenian Family; my Fresno Armenian relatives did know him personally.

**Pine** · 05-01-2021, 06:04 PM

Armenians are a firmly Middle Eastern population. If Armenians are white, then white just means West Eurasian.

**Ayetooey** · 05-01-2021, 06:07 PM

Both are West Asian populations, but Turks have a lot more steppe and recent European ancestry than Armenians. Armenians are incredibly distant genetically to all Europeans.

**TheOldNorth** · 05-01-2021, 06:13 PM

who said Armenians are white? They are north middle eastern or south Caucasian (meaning of the Caucasus not Caucasoid which is more broad of a term)

**SilverKnight** · 05-01-2021, 06:19 PM

I don't consider Turks as white. They're a caucasoid subgroup of course, just not white. Armenians are much closer to Europeans then most Turks are.

**Ayetooey** · 05-01-2021, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by SilverKnight

I don't consider Turks as white. They're a Caucaoid subgroup of course, just not white. Armenians are much closer to Europeans then most Turks are.

Not true. Examples from all four genetic extremes of Europe + central Europe (Austria) Europeans are universally much closer to the average Turk genetically, the only exceptions being Black Sea turks who overlap significantly with Armenians. This is despite Turks having significant East Eurasian Admix which shifts them further away from Europe (they're still closer than Armenians). Nothing wrong with Christians having more cultural sympathy towards Armenia, but they aren't genetically European. This is a big genetic myth which still persists.

**FinalFlash** · 05-01-2021, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Ayetooey

Both are West Asian populations, but Turks have a lot more steppe and recent European ancestry than Armenians. Armenians are incredibly distant genetically to all Europeans.

Untrue. Some Turkish subgroups don't have more European ancestry than Armenians. Also, what's "incredibly distant" to you?

**Ayetooey** · 05-01-2021, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by FinalFlash

Untrue. Some Turkish subgroups don't have more European ancestry than Armenians. Also, what's "incredibly distant" to you?

Only Black sea Turks (aka Pontians) and Meskhetians (Georgian Turks) don't.

The distances above are huge, even to the most WANA shifted geographical Europeans (dodecanese islanders) have a distance to Armenians of over 20.

**FinalFlash** · 05-01-2021, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Ayetooey

Only Black sea Turks (aka Pontians) and Meskhetians (Georgian Turks) don't.

The distances above are huge, even to the most WANA shifted geographical Europeans (dodecanese islanders) have a distance to Armenians of over 20.

The distances between even the most southern of Europeans and WAs are substantial and Armenians are no exception to this rule.

However, the disparities in European admix between Armenians and you average Anatolian Turk are grossly exaggerated imo. Both are firmly in the Northern West Asia cluster. Based off of this, with minor exceptions here and there, neither side is genetically "whiter" than the other.