K13 modeling with TA members Vol. 2

[rothaer]

very good example of how autosomal DNA inheritance works.

ID	N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan	Northern	Southern	EastAsian	Indian	African
rothaer(East German)	38.26	36.69	12.14	4.14	3.13	2.39	0.72	0	2.02	0	0.18	0	0.34	74.95	21.8	2.02	0.72	0.34
rothaer_wife(North German)	47.4	34.2	8.29	5.05	2.02	0	0.33	0.67	0.89	0.25	0.38	0.51	0	81.6	15.87	1.81	0.33	0
rothaer_child1(East German)	38.48	37.74	12.54	6.01	1.86	0.66	0	0	0.88	0.89	0	0.24	0.7	76.22	21.31	1.77	0	0.7
rothaer_child2(East German)	39.62	34.47	13.05	4.08	4.38	2.11	0	0	0.76	0.71	0	0.82	0	74.09	24.44	1.47	0	0
rothaer_child3(East German)	40.58	34.78	11.08	5.32	3.89	0.83	0.23	0	1.57	1.23	0	0	0.49	75.36	21.12	2.8	0.23	0.49
rothaer_child5(East German)	37.82	34.39	13.25	6.03	5.11	0.56	0	0	0.98	1.08	0.53	0	0.26	72.21	24.95	2.06	0	0.26
rothaer_child6(East German)	41.75	33.02	11.13	5.71	3.76	1.33	1.34	0	1.68	0.07	0	0.18	0	74.77	22.11	1.75	1.34	0
rothaer_child7(East German)	43.65	35.63	9.11	3.65	2.6	1.6	1.63	0	1.77	0	0.3	0.06	0	79.28	17.02	1.77	1.63	0
rothaer_child8(East German)	41.6	34.4	10.77	3.64	4.99	2.47	0	0	2.12	0	0	0	0	76	21.87	2.12	0	0

I maybe should have labeled my wife wife2. However, she is just the mother of child6,child7 and child8. The results are then maybe even somewhat better.
The "wife1" (not tested and mother to child1 -5) is likely closer to my own figures than wife/wife2.

[rothaer]

All have been added and replaced/fixed my modeling changed a bit.

Target: Stearsolina(Croat)
Distance: 0.5065% / 0.50650996

36.4 Incelslayer(Romanian)
11.3 rothaer_brother_in_law(German)
10.6 Visar(Pole)
10.4 IrisSelene(Romanian-Hungarian)
9.9 Petalpusher_mother(French)
9.6 Peterski(Pole)
5.7 DarkSecret(Laz)
3.2 Saint_Glinglin(French)
2.9 emziepiex3_mom(Serb)

Target: Stearsolina(Croat)
Distance: 1.3468% / 1.34675523 | R2P

81.3 Devil's_advocate(Serb)
18.7 rothaer_brother_in_law(German)

Distance to: Stearsolina(Croat)

1.34687860 81.20% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 18.80% rothaer_brother_in_law(German)
1.35887405 78.60% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 21.40% rothaer_grandmother_in_law(German)
1.36463808 82.80% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 17.20% rothaer_wife(German)
1.38802851 80.60% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 19.40% rothaer_mother_in_law(German)
1.50958880 85.40% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 14.60% Farke1(Irish-British-Norwegian)
1.52132198 77.60% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 22.40% rothaer_child6(German)
1.57323997 80.00% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 20.00% Reith(German-Norse_American)
1.58341402 84.60% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 15.40% Folcwalding(Dutch)
1.63147267 83.00% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 17.00% rothaer_grandfather_in_law(German)
1.64119058 83.80% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 16.20% Mars(Dutch)
1.64614290 13.80% CreodaDad(Irish) + 86.20% Devil's_advocate(Serb)
1.64996823 18.60% Matxe92(Dane-Pole) + 81.40% Devil's_advocate(Serb)
1.65202194 77.00% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 23.00% rothaer_child3(German)
1.68108946 84.80% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 15.20% evon(Norwegian)
1.68476253 71.60% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 28.40% rothaer_child5(German)
1.69156235 86.60% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 13.40% Albannach(Scot-Irish)
1.70389901 20.20% Inf99Mom(American) + 79.80% Devil's_advocate(Serb)
1.71053913 60.80% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 39.20% Videx(Hungarian)
1.71211435 81.60% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 18.40% Levono(Swede)
1.71593111 86.40% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 13.60% Alessio_mother(Dutch)
1.71896251 77.20% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 22.80% Stahlbestie91(German)
1.72042608 77.20% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 22.80% yowasgeht_father(German)
1.73980362 82.20% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 17.80% Christofer(German_American)
1.74734098 85.00% Devil's_advocate(Serb) + 15.00% Graham's_Mum(Scot)
1.78042466 14.20% Grace(Irish) + 85.80% Devil's_advocate(Serb)

Interesting. Could you model me too or tell how and where to do that?

[Jana]

Interesting. Could you model me too or tell how and where to do that?

Yes ofcourse.

Distance to: rothaer(German)

2.76182910 rothaer_mother(German)
3.49904273 rothaer_child1(German)
3.56105321 rothaer_child2(German)
4.07039310 rothaer_child3(German)
4.52243297 rothaer_child5(German)
4.76119733 rothaer_child8(German)
4.84108459 RandomGuy20(Australian)
5.15334843 Schwop(Swede)
5.28193146 Mazik(Swede)
5.49895445 Not_a_Cop_Grandfather1(German-Russian-Pole)
5.59819614 rothaer_child6(German)
5.68113545 Halge(Swede)
5.94807532 greasycaveman(Russian-American)
6.10338431 rothaer_sibling3(German)
6.13561733 Drogin(Norwegian-Finn)
6.28027069 rothaer_sibling4(German)
6.44405928 rothaer_child7(German)
6.64033132 rothaer_grandmother_in_law(German)
6.96601034 rothaer_father(German)
6.96988522 Cordedwhelp_mom(American)
6.98716681 Uull(Pole-German_American)
7.06678145 Karol(Slovak_¼_American)
7.34735326 Mazik_grandpa(Swede)
7.44333259 Calcifer(Afrikaner-Pole-German)
7.55358193 Oszkar(Hungarian-Brit)

Target: rothaer(German)
Distance: 0.4688% / 0.46877724

50.5 rothaer_mother(German)
19.7 rothaer_child8(German)
8.3 gixajo(Spaniard)
7.5 Aila(Finn)
5.3 SSlava(Russian)
4.5 Sippola(Finn)
3.9 Vari(Estonian)
0.2 Herb3(Afro-American)
0.1 mashail(Arab)

Target: rothaer(German)
Distance: 1.5166% / 1.51657204 | R2P

84.7 rothaer_mother(German)
15.3 Stanislav(Russian-Pole)

Distance to: rothaer(German)

1.36541843 6.40% Elnar(Tatar-Mordvin) + 93.60% rothaer_mother(German)
1.43823822 51.80% RandomGuy20(Australian) + 48.20% Schwop(Swede)
1.51660213 15.40% Stanislav(Russian-Pole) + 84.60% rothaer_mother(German)
1.52157926 28.60% Mariusz99(Polish) + 71.40% rothaer_child8(German)
1.53329916 10.20% Norka(Russian-Tatar) + 89.80% rothaer_mother(German)
1.58627014 12.00% Leto(Russian-Belorussian) + 88.00% rothaer_mother(German)
1.63442326 15.40% Jusarius(Finn) + 84.60% rothaer_child2(German)
1.63840894 14.40% Aila(Finn) + 85.60% rothaer_child2(German)
1.63913264 12.80% Not_a_Cop_Grandfather2(Russian) + 87.20% rothaer_mother(German)
1.66534826 11.80% Cumansky(Pole-Ukrainian) + 88.20% rothaer_mother(German)
1.67528335 9.60% Leto_Mom(Russian) + 90.40% rothaer_mother(German)
1.67818434 14.80% Not_a_Cop_Grandmother1(Russian) + 85.20% rothaer_child2(German)
1.67896086 11.80% Mary(Russian) + 88.20% rothaer_mother(German)
1.67980956 19.80% Vyacheslav(Russian) + 80.20% rothaer_child2(German)
1.70048749 9.40% Dimadoe(Russian) + 90.60% rothaer_mother(German)
1.70523823 12.80% Michal(Pole) + 87.20% rothaer_mother(German)
1.70940308 12.20% Silentkiller(Russian) + 87.80% rothaer_mother(German)
1.71383703 10.60% I.vet(Russian) + 89.40% rothaer_mother(German)
1.71960503 8.20% Yamnaya(Russian_¼_Bashkir) + 91.80% rothaer_mother(German)
1.74879752 9.20% LecomtsevAlexander(Russian) + 90.80% rothaer_mother(German)
1.76322977 13.60% Kostej(Slovak) + 86.40% rothaer_mother(German)
1.77986922 12.80% Lemgrant(Ukrainian) + 87.20% rothaer_mother(German)
1.78634401 21.60% Lemminkainen(Finn) + 78.40% rothaer_child2(German)
1.79286186 10.60% Krivich(Russian) + 89.40% rothaer_mother(German)
1.79354746 10.20% rurov0(Russian) + 89.80% rothaer_mother(German)

[Gergő Marosvári]

Mom's results, with reduce to 2 populations mode:

Target: Katalin(Hungarian)
Distance: 1.6050% / 1.60497419 | R2P
56.9 Viers(Hungarian)
43.1 Art23(Ukrainian_¼_Moldovan)

Reduce to 3 populations mode:

Target: Katalin(Hungarian)
Distance: 0.9496% / 0.94957437 | R3P
39.6 Alenka_Dad(Croat-Serb)
33.3 GergőMarosvári(Hungarian)
27.1 Viers(Hungarian)

[Gergő Marosvári]

I love genetics seriously... My distant Rusyn line came from my paternal grandmother, she isn't "participating" on the closest list. While my mother doesn't have any Rusyn in her family and look at that. She is even closer to the average Rusyn results than Madonna's ethnic Rusyn father. WOW
It would be great, if there would be more Hungarians from my county here on TA (Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén), to know if we are a bit "outliers" with my mother or is it normal for a Hungarian in Borsod county to receive a results like this.

Distance to: Ukrainian_Carpathian
2.66172876 Max_soldo(Croat)
3.19787429 Katalin(Hungarian)
3.63715548 Madonna_father(Rusyn)
3.68800759 Kostej(Slovak)
3.73862274 Manda(Croat)
4.00356091 GergőMarosvári(Hungarian)
4.64310241 Alenka(Slovene-Croat-Serb)
4.91253499 Alenka_Dad(Croat-Serb)
4.91281996 Calpal_grandma(Rusyn)
4.94420873 Vlatko_vukovic(Bosniak)
5.17273622 Stearsolina_stepdad(Croat)
5.24753275 Daos777(Ukrainian-Moldovan-Pole)
5.24820922 Westcoast(Croat)
5.32049810 noricum_halfbro(Austrian-Slovene)
5.38133812 BalkanX(Croat)
5.42553223 Incelslayer(Romanian)
5.45989927 cakmir7y_wife(Czech)
5.81474849 VarangianRus(Hungarian)
5.98939897 Art23(Ukrainian_¼_Moldovan)
6.02807598 Universe(Hungarian)
6.02904636 Karol_father(Slovak)
6.14142492 Abriekman(Pole-Russian-Bulgarian-Jew)
6.27643211 cakmir7y(Czech)
6.35574543 nuti(Slovak)
7.03134411 galychanyn(Rusyn)

[InfamousAngel99]

Reposting my results:
2.85334891 ArmatusGrandfather(German)
2.99581375 Mr.G_mother(German_American)
3.53417600 Jackson_aunt(English)
3.57275804 Calpal_sister(British-French-Rusyn)
3.81369899 Jingorex(American)
3.89363583 frankhammer(British_New_Zealander)
3.94845539 WhatsGoingOnBigGuy(American)
3.95438997 Jackson_mother(English)
3.99230510 wisteria(American)
4.00602047 SouthDutch7991(American)
4.00735574 Norb(English)
4.10264549 Morticia(American)
4.12700860 acbrasil(Brazilian)
4.20216611 Jackson(English)
4.34745903 MotherKyp(German)
4.43743169 Gooding(American)
4.50256594 Dreger22310(French)
4.57192520 jtoml3(New_Zealander)
4.58918293 **JC**(British-German_Australian)
4.66351799 Christofer(German_American)
4.68580836 Dandelion(Belgian)
4.82516321 Oneeye(American)
4.85493563 Skeleton(American)
4.88071716 Caismeachd(Scot)
4.94484580 Rædwald(English-French_Canadian)

Distance: 0.1973% / 0.19733790
27.0 Saint_Glinglin(French)
17.7 Folcwalding(Dutch)
16.8 ArmatusGirlfriend(German)
10.8 TheOldNorth'smom(English-Scot-Irish_American)
9.6 Peterski(Pole)
6.6 Graham(Scot)
6.4 Adamg(Czech-German)
1.7 dududud_mother(French-Sardinian)
1.1 Peterski_Father(Pole)
0.7 Thorns(American)
0.6 Dibran(Albanian)
0.6 Natalie(Czech)
0.3 CommonSense_mother(Serb_3/8_Croat-Romanian)
0.1 emziepiex3_mom(Serb)

[Kaspias]

I love genetics seriously... My distant Rusyn line came from my paternal grandmother, she isn't "participating" on the closest list. While my mother doesn't have any Rusyn in her family and look at that. She is even closer to the average Rusyn results than Madonna's ethnic Rusyn father. WOW
It would be great, if there would be more Hungarians from my county here on TA (Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén), to know if we are a bit "outliers" with my mother or is it normal for a Hungarian in Borsod county to receive a results like this.

Does your Gedmatch kit number start with PJ3?

You match with me, also with a few Turks and Pomaks from Western Thrace, as well as plenty of Bulgarians whom I do not know their origin.

Largest segment = 8.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 15.9cM (0.442 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 6.3

2 shared segments found for this comparison.

[Gergő Marosvári]

Does your Gedmatch kit number start with PJ3?

You match with me, also with a few Turks and Pomaks from Western Thrace, as well as plenty of Bulgarians whom I do not know their origin.

Largest segment = 8.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 15.9cM (0.442 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 6.3

2 shared segments found for this comparison.

Yes, it is one of my kit on Gedmatch. Amazing!

[knez01]

Yes, it is one of my kit on Gedmatch. Amazing!

I match you as well, odd.

[Kaspias]

Yes, it is one of my kit on Gedmatch. Amazing!

Do you have any ancestors from Transylvania, just for curiosity? As far as I recall your all ancestors were from NE Hungary.