K13 modeling with TA members Vol. 2

[Creoda]

^Interesting thoughts.

A little experiment that others might find useful: I averaged my score with both evil twins, and then averaged those averages - the average of me + evil twins plots between my parents as it should, unlike my 'real' score. I could have been born and plotted anywhere within this big pentagon, and maybe my siblings do. That's why individual's scores can't be taken too seriously.


My 'real' score from Ancestry data:

Target: Creoda
Distance: 2.2577% / 2.25770917
84.4	CreodaDad
15.6	CreodaMum

Distance to:	Creoda
3.14421691	Irish_Munster
3.17458659	Orcadian
3.32484586	Scottish_Southwest
3.45085497	Irish
3.49084517	Irish_Connacht
3.50085704	Scottish_Gàidhealtachd
3.54272494	Scottish_Northeast
3.62977961	Scottish
3.64446155	Irish_Ulster
3.77066307	Scottish_East

Target: Creoda
Distance: 2.4008% / 2.40083260 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.7	Irish_Munster
23.8	Norwegian_Southcentral
10.5	Orcadian

Average of me + evil twins score:

Target: Creoda+EvilTwins
Distance: 0.6557% / 0.65565995
50.7	CreodaDad
49.3	CreodaMum

Distance to:	Creoda+EvilTwins
2.02086615	Dutch_North
2.33407369	Orcadian
2.47868917	Icelandic
2.55853474	Scottish_Gàidhealtachd
2.58389241	Dutch_Central
2.74488615	Scottish_Northeast
2.85748141	English_North
2.91549310	Scottish_Southwest
2.93359847	Scottish
2.95203320	Dutch

Target: Creoda+EvilTwins
Distance: 0.9052% / 0.90519263 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.5	Scottish_Southwest
28.9	Dutch_North
25.2	Danish
0.4	Kurumba

Would be interested to see others try this, and if they think it's more realistic. Particularly someone who has a sibling and two parents tested.

[Smitty]

I would never discover full sister of my maternal grandpa (100% from my island) was tested if not for Ancestry. I didn't know she was tested and she is not on gedmatch. She lives in California.
When I get her raw data I will know how my grandpa was genetically and how people of my Island are, and I will be able to do chromosome painting to see from which side I inherited which DNA segments.

So for me ancestry was a bingo. Only their new genetic groups for eastern Europe make no sense which was unexpected because they were totally reliable in that until last update.

Were the genetic communities for Eastern Europe inaccurate? Mine improved dramatically. It was just Pomerania before (which covered a huge swath of Western Poland, according to the map), and now it's a really specific area in Pomerania - basically three towns that match up very well with my matches' ancestral locations.

[Jana]

Were the genetic communities for Eastern Europe inaccurate? Mine improved dramatically. It was just Pomerania before (which covered a huge swath of Western Poland, according to the map), and now it's a really specific area in Pomerania - basically three towns that match up very well with my matches' ancestral locations.

my result

[Smitty]

my result

Haha, that says it all.

[Leto]

nee4speed111(Copt),0,0,14.73,4.18,46.07,23.92,0,0,0,0,0,11.1,0

[Leto]

Colonel_Frank_Grimes(Spanish),40.28,12.43,22.59,2.28,14.64,2.57,0.57,1,0,0.29,0.83,0.7,1.82

Colonel's results have never been shared before. Feiichy, can you model him? I can't do that right now.

Distance to: Colonel_Frank_Grimes(Spanish)
3.94234702 Portuguese
4.14277685 Spanish_Catalonia
4.71692697 Spanish_Castile-León
5.00566679 Spanish_Murcia
5.52906864 Spanish_Galicia
5.81412934 Spanish_Valencia
6.05302404 Spanish_Extremadura
6.35157461 French_South
6.82773755 Swiss_Italian
7.15422952 Italian_Aosta_Valley
7.38155810 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha
7.62733243 French_Provence
8.21939779 Spanish_Andalusia
8.37360735 Spanish_Cantabria
8.78568722 French_Central
9.52424275 Italian_Piedmont
9.67882741 Spanish_Aragon
9.75203568 Italian_Trentino
10.02685893 French_Canadian
10.90788705 Italian_Veneto

Target: Colonel_Frank_Grimes(Spanish)
Distance: 1.3213% / 1.32127461 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.4 Spanish_Murcia
20.7 German_North_Hesse
13.2 Swiss_Italian
1.0 Yoruban
0.7 Melanesian_Papuan

Target: Colonel_Frank_Grimes(Spanish)
Distance: 1.9165% / 1.91646952 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.7 Spanish_Murcia
20.7 German_North_Hesse
14.6 Swiss_Italian

[Jana]

Colonel_Frank_Grimes(Spanish),40.28,12.43,22.59,2.28,14.64,2.57,0.57,1,0,0.29,0.83,0.7,1.82

Colonel's results have never been shared before. Feiichy, can you model him? I can't do that right now.

Distance to: Colonel_Frank_Grimes(Spanish)
3.94234702 Portuguese
4.14277685 Spanish_Catalonia
4.71692697 Spanish_Castile-León
5.00566679 Spanish_Murcia
5.52906864 Spanish_Galicia
5.81412934 Spanish_Valencia
6.05302404 Spanish_Extremadura
6.35157461 French_South
6.82773755 Swiss_Italian
7.15422952 Italian_Aosta_Valley
7.38155810 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha
7.62733243 French_Provence
8.21939779 Spanish_Andalusia
8.37360735 Spanish_Cantabria
8.78568722 French_Central
9.52424275 Italian_Piedmont
9.67882741 Spanish_Aragon
9.75203568 Italian_Trentino
10.02685893 French_Canadian
10.90788705 Italian_Veneto

Target: Colonel_Frank_Grimes(Spanish)
Distance: 1.3213% / 1.32127461 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.4 Spanish_Murcia
20.7 German_North_Hesse
13.2 Swiss_Italian
1.0 Yoruban
0.7 Melanesian_Papuan

Target: Colonel_Frank_Grimes(Spanish)
Distance: 1.9165% / 1.91646952 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.7 Spanish_Murcia
20.7 German_North_Hesse
14.6 Swiss_Italian

Nice addition! up:

He's very Portuguese like, a true Galego! Galician language is is closest relative of Portuguese, both descend from West Iberian > Galician-Portuguese (Old Portuguese/medieval Galician).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician-Portuguese

Distance to: Colonel_Frank_Grimes(Spanish)

2.66713329 Hyoga7(Portuguese)
3.28373263 Spaniard2.0_Mom(Spaniard)
3.35389326 Gabbobler(Portuguese)
3.89871774 Ibericus(Spaniard)
4.17611063 Damiao(Portuguese)
4.23346194 Luso(Portuguese)
4.31514774 Suarsenaguer(Spaniard)
4.37793330 Spaniard2.0(Spaniard)
4.41629936 Atlantic_islander(Portuguese)
4.70871532 Gaita(Spaniard)
4.71165576 Luso_MOM(Portuguese)
4.83691017 Brás_Garcia_wife(Portuguese)
4.92748415 Luso_DAD(Portuguese)
5.08664919 Mrs_Vasconcelos(Portuguese)
5.41106274 Luso_BRO(Portuguese)
5.53646096 Pedro(Portuguese)
5.74901731 Spaniard2.0_Dad(Spaniard)
5.98208158 Brás_Garcia_de_Mascarenhas(Portuguese)
6.08028782 Noff(Spaniard)
6.41000780 Madmax(Spaniard-Portuguese)
6.59915146 Tagus(Portuguese)
6.63281991 FilhoV(Portuguese)
6.64772141 Brás_Garcia_father(Portuguese)
6.67621899 Mopi(Spaniard-British-Irish)
6.90315145 Cernunnos(Portuguese)

Target: Colonel_Frank_Grimes(Spanish)
Distance: 1.2415% / 1.24147180 | R2P

81.4 Hyoga7(Portuguese)
18.6 Tchek(Belgian)

[SouthDutch7991]

Myself, from all three different companies, all with quite different results. About a whole Great Grandparents worth of shift towards or away from the British Isles depending on the company.
SouthANCESTRYk13,46.93,23.17,16.83,5.21,3.93,0.7,0 ,0.33,0.49,0.51,0.48,0,1.42
SouthFTDNAk13,46.32,23.3,16.17,4.01,5.89,1.19,0.00 ,0.73,0.23,0.86,0.00,0.00,1.3
South23andMek13,47.16,23.32,16.18,3.92,4.08,2.27,0 ,1.14,0,1.07,0,0,0.87

Dad
DAD_FTDNAk13,41.98,26.72,18.13,3.55,4.4,2.1,0.86,0 ,1.28,0,0,0,0.96
DAD_AncestryDNAk13,41.37,27.2,17.85,3.54,5.06,2.09 ,0.72,0,1.27,0,0,0,0.89

Dads mom and dads brother
NANCY_FTDNAk13,42.45,25.46,18.03,5.74,4.08,1.42,1. 24,0.54,0,0.25,0,0,0.8
NANCY_AncestryDNAk13,42.09,25.36,17.6,5.62,4.64,1. 79,1.35,0.52,0,0.31,0,0,0.71
CRAIG_FTDNAk13,42.51,25.63,18.74,5.42,3.02,2.27,0, 0,1.27,0,0.63,0,0.51
CRAIG_ANcestryDNAk13,42.58,25.5,18.71,5.47,2.98,2. 36,0,0,1.24,0,0.65,0,0.51

Moms parents
BILLk13,51.76,25.12,10.75,3.79,4.79,0.19,0.92,0.41 ,0,0,0.38,1.58,0.31
NICKYk13,49.72,19.66,16.16,8.92,3.46,0,0.35,0.46,0 ,0,0.84,0.13,0.3

[Leto]

Nice addition! up:

He's very Portuguese like, a true Galego! Galician language is is closest relative of Portuguese, both descend from West Iberian > Galician-Portuguese (Old Portuguese/medieval Galician).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician-Portuguese

Yes, I know but Colonel is very Americanized, I perceive him as a "yankee"
Galicia is the most Celtic place in Spain, I believe. Almost Southern Ireland
https://www.thelocal.es/20211103/fiv...on-of-ireland/

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Myself, from all three different companies, all with quite different results. About a whole Great Grandparents worth of shift towards or away from the British Isles depending on the company.
SouthANCESTRYk13,46.93,23.17,16.83,5.21,3.93,0.7,0 ,0.33,0.49,0.51,0.48,0,1.42
SouthFTDNAk13,46.32,23.3,16.17,4.01,5.89,1.19,0.00 ,0.73,0.23,0.86,0.00,0.00,1.3
South23andMek13,47.16,23.32,16.18,3.92,4.08,2.27,0 ,1.14,0,1.07,0,0,0.87

Dad
DAD_FTDNAk13,41.98,26.72,18.13,3.55,4.4,2.1,0.86,0 ,1.28,0,0,0,0.96
DAD_AncestryDNAk13,41.37,27.2,17.85,3.54,5.06,2.09 ,0.72,0,1.27,0,0,0,0.89

Dads mom and dads brother
NANCY_FTDNAk13,42.45,25.46,18.03,5.74,4.08,1.42,1. 24,0.54,0,0.25,0,0,0.8
NANCY_AncestryDNAk13,42.09,25.36,17.6,5.62,4.64,1. 79,1.35,0.52,0,0.31,0,0,0.71
CRAIG_FTDNAk13,42.51,25.63,18.74,5.42,3.02,2.27,0, 0,1.27,0,0.63,0,0.51
CRAIG_ANcestryDNAk13,42.58,25.5,18.71,5.47,2.98,2. 36,0,0,1.24,0,0.65,0,0.51

Moms parents
BILLk13,51.76,25.12,10.75,3.79,4.79,0.19,0.92,0.41 ,0,0,0.38,1.58,0.31
NICKYk13,49.72,19.66,16.16,8.92,3.46,0,0.35,0.46,0 ,0,0.84,0.13,0.3

Could you also share their Global25 coordinates, if you have?