New world results, another genetic study 2021. A lot of samples.

[samario]

La diaspora afroantillana de Panama descendiente de migrantes anglocaribeños es fuerte en donde hicieron el estudio
De otro forma no se explica tan alto SSA y el bajo nativo(aun menor que el Caucasico).

Los Panameños en EEUU suelen ser de esa diaspora por eso me sorprendio en estos dias que Celestia reconociera
mi aspecto como Panameño y por eso le pregunte si en su ciudad los panameños no eran de esa diaspora y eran
de clase media y trabajadora. Me dijo que lo que sospechaba: en su ciudad los panameños no son de esa diaspora.

Comunidad 'hispana' de Nueva York. Ciertamente aparece bastante afro Panamá, se parece a la imagen que tenía de Panamá inicialmente luego supe que también hay muchos zambos, tri-raciales zamboides, etc.

Qué porcentaje de los panameños son afroantillanos. Viven en su mayoría en Ciudad de Panamá y Colón?

Lo de Venezuela es bastante curioso. Los venezolanos en Colombia ciertamente tienen bastante mezcla SSA y NA pero creo que no hay un predominio nativo.

[axel.aleman]

Comunidad 'hispana' de Nueva York. Ciertamente aparece bastante afro Panamá, se parece a la imagen que tenía de Panamá inicialmente luego supe que también hay muchos zambos, tri-raciales zamboides, etc.

Qué porcentaje de los panameños son afroantillanos. Viven en su mayoría en Ciudad de Panamá y Colón?

Lo de Venezuela es bastante curioso. Los venezolanos en Colombia ciertamente tienen bastante mezcla SSA y NA pero creo que no hay un predominio nativo.

Viven la mayoria en Ciudad de Panama, Colon y Bocas del Toro. Cuando tenga el censo de afroantillanos te digo el porcentaje
Solo te puedo decir que la mayoria de migrantes panameños en EEUU son de esa diaspora porque esos dominan mas el ingles

[Erronkari]

mmm i dont think Brazil and Argentina are 80% euro, and i dont think mexico is 20% european either. i think those samples are not representative. But still it is interesting. it gives an idea

Pra mim Argentina sim pode ficar por volta de 80% porem concordo com o 78% que voce acha tambem.

[Gauthier]

Another study with Brazil 80% european?

We are more european than USA, I always knew it. Uruguay take care of yourself, we gonna find you hehe

But really, any reason why Brazil and Argentina appeared more highly euro than expected? Chile also appeared more than I expected. The oppose of Mexico and Venezuela that appeared less european than I expected.

The study doesn't mention the location where the study took place in Mexico. These results look similar to other studies that have taken place in the southern states though.



Source; https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...uoE/edit#gid=0

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[Andullero]

Viven la mayoria en Ciudad de Panama, Colon y Bocas del Toro. Cuando tenga el censo de afroantillanos te digo el porcentaje
Solo te puedo decir que la mayoria de migrantes panameños en EEUU son de esa diaspora porque esos dominan mas el ingles

El caso de los panas en USA es igualito al de los beliceños. La mayoria de los últimos son de los anglo-grifos originales del sitio, y ahora mismo en Belice propiamente dicha la mayoria de la gente son indomestizos descendientes de ilegales guates.

[Gauthier]

i think venezuelan, bolivian and mexican are not acurate at all.

It depends on where they got the samples from. At least for Mexico it does coincide with what you get in the southern provinces.

[axel.aleman]

El caso de los panas en USA es igualito al de los beliceños. La mayoria de los últimos son de los anglo-grifos originales del sitio, y ahora mismo en Belice propiamente dicha la mayoria de la gente son indomestizos descendientes de ilegales guates.

En nuestro caso los anglogrifos son migrantes. La poblacion original se compone de todo tipo de triraciales(incluyendo los mulatoides como yo que usualmente se cuentan como mulatos), mestizos, zambos
El negro colonense criollo en realidad es triracial tirando a griffe. El mejor ejemplo de eso es el diputado Jairo Salazar Bolota

Jairo Bolota

[alnortedelsur]

Venezuela is way off. According to this study is almost like Ecuador

It underestimates the African (which I'm sure is lower than the Euro and Amerindian contributions, but yet in this study is kind of low for Venezuela), overestimates the Amerindian, but also underestimates too much the European in the case of Venezuela. I wonder how many Venezuelans were tested (I have been lazy to read all the paper). If Argentano knows it right away, I would appreciate it.

Thanks Argentano for sharing it

[Andullero]

Venezuela is way off. According to this study is almost like Ecuador

It underestimates the African, overestimates the Amerindian, but also underestimates too much the European in the case of Venezuela. I wonder how many Venezuelans were tested (I have been lazy to read all the paper). If Argentano knows right away, I would appreciate it.

Anyone knowing the country would say they only tested in Amazonas or Guayana. Or at least that's how I would imagine the local there to be.

[alnortedelsur]

Me neither, my average of all genetic studies I have seen is Uruguay 80% euro, Argentina 75%, Brazil 70%, PR 63.5%, Colombia 60%, Chile 55/57.5%, DR 48%, Mexico 45%... Venezuela results are always very rare but I believe its around 50/55% after the apocalipse, Cuba I always dont agree with their results(white people most of the time are over represented), this is the most accurate I have seen for Cuba 60-64%. Love this study has so many rare countries like Paraguay, Venezuela, CR, Ecuador, Haiti and Peru! With more this study, my average of some countries will be a little affected : Mexico will change of 45 to 43 and Argentina of 75 to 78 and Chile of 55 to 57.5 for example, others will also change a little... I think Its the first time I saw a Venezuela result, before any study I thought they were 55% european, I am trying to believe this first time I see them they are only 30-37.5% euro, its basically Panamá. Maybe my perception about them will change of 55 to 45/50. Thank you for the informations, I always enjoy to see numbers about countries and their people.

That study doesn't put Venezuela like Panama, but more like Ecuador. And no, Venezuela is much less African than Panama, and even in that study Panama comes up as way more African than Venezuela.

In any case you're right on what you have always believed when it comes to the European input in Venezuela, which is not less than 50% Euro, even after the apocalipse.