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Thread: Sicilians and Sardinians closer to Africa than Europe?

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    This one should give a better view of distances. This one or vahaduo runs.



    So the answer is no.

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    I agree, they can only show some principal components. Useful for some groups ethnically close but not to represent everything accurately all at once. I ve said many times the only way to represent genetic somewhat accurately is multi dimensional but on a forum we can only see 2d so far (at least this one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    They are closer to the Levant, not Africa. North Africa has too much SSA, even a little bit of SSA will draw someone very far away because it's so distant. They are closer to North African Jews however, who have less SSA and elevated EEF(opposed to Levant_N/Iran_N/etc).
    these distances are meaningless : https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...F6peBsHfsNavBo

    meanwhile this is more meaningfull :


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    One of my favorite, done on anthrogenica

    https://chart-studio.plotly.com/~Urfaust/20.embed

    Not easy to navigate first, have to use both clicks and alt, it's an habit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelpOswald View Post
    Your graphic confirms my statement. If we take the German/french/British section as core area of europe, then south Italy is Much closer to maghreb. They're basically like jewish
    Core of Western Europe maybe - there's also South and East Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damio de Gis View Post
    This one should give a better view of distances. This one or vahaduo runs.





    So the answer is no.
    San people from Africa are close to Mongolian. If you want an accurate map you need 3 axis

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    It's funny how some insist and insist over and over again in trying to explain the europeanness --in case that thing and concept exist and in which way-- with a bunch of figures and diagrams.

    To try to understand what Europe is, we should defiine first what it is, and in order to get it we should to know it, including especially its history and the population movements within it during history.

    I remember you Europe has very unprecise borders, now and in History.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.o.l.i.t.a View Post
    The fact that some northern Italians use 'terroni' as a racial offense is quite funny. Northern Italy remains closer to the south than any other Nordic country. Lol

    Distance to: Italian_Lombardy
    0.05863691 Italian_Campania
    0.07574185 German
    "Italian Campania" is really outlying and not really representative anyway. Apulia, Molise and Basilicata are closer to the Euro core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    They are closer to the Levant, not Africa. North Africa has too much SSA, even a little bit of SSA will draw someone very far away because it's so distant. They are closer to North African Jews however, who have less SSA and elevated EEF(opposed to Levant_N/Iran_N/etc).
    They are equidistant from French and Druzes/Christian Lebanese. Other Levantines have significant SSA admixture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilcar View Post
    these distances are meaningless : https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...F6peBsHfsNavBo

    meanwhile this is more meaningfull :

    G25 is a PCA, these admixture percentages are calculated with basis on PCA euclidean distances.

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