In sharp contrast to England, the Labour Party INCREASES its votes and seats in Wales

[Graham]

Working class aren't voting Labour because Labour aren't representing the working class.

Obviously neither are the Tories but that's not the issue.

Labour need to match the ambition of the Tories within old Labour values.

A National Care Service similar to the National Health Service and big scale plans for public transport outwith the cities.

Not lots of little give-aways just a couple of big solid plans.

[JamesBond007]

Working class aren't voting Labour because Labour aren't representing the working class.

Obviously neither are the Tories but that's not the issue.

I would venture to guess so since Jeremy Corbyn is , at least currently, to the left of the Labour party.

[Graham]

I would venture to guess so since Jeremy Corbyn is , at least currently, to the left of the Labour party.

Keir Starmer's the leader now. They swapped a middle-class timid London socialist for a middle-class timid London centralist.

Labour's purging the left side of party using any excuse to do so. Angela Rayner was demoted yesterday.

[Longbowman]

I would venture to guess so since Jeremy Corbyn is , at least currently, to the left of the Labour party.

Corbyn also wasn't popular, of course, for essentially the same reason, which is that he represented 'London values' to people who just didn't care and got very frustrated with nonsense about trans rights and how Northern Ireland was rightfully Irish or whatever when they wanted jobs.