Napoleon’s bicentenary

[Samnium]

Great achievements yes, but he also threw Europe into 20 years of war

It is England who broke the treaty of Amiens, not Napoléon...

[Centurion]

You have absolutely no clue about you're talking about. You got no idea about what happenned here in Spain, either before Napoleon, when Napoleon, or after Napoleon.

I know that he kicked your ass, and that you deserved it.

If you have dared state all that nonsense, it implies precisely that, that you are a historical illiterate.

Illiterate? Lol. I've probably read more than you about Napoléon. Notably the biography that Jacques Bainville wrote about him. Despite he was monarchist and not bonapartist, he recognised his genius and his heroism. You should read it, you may learn one thing or two.



The episode in Spain is thoroughly explained. Yes, he made a mistake, but the real question is: why did he make it? That's because Spain was too much weak and disorganized to be a stable and strong ally. So he had to intervene to put someone more reliable at its head. Also, he was no well advised, so he didn't know how much retarded and fanatics the Spaniards were. It's not his fault if the Spaniards were like this, otherwise he would have worked better.

So you just have to blame your own country. The only error of Napoléon have been to underestimate the level of retardness of the Spaniard but it was not really his fault.

And not. Napoleon was a murderer, a criminal, just like the most cruel tyrants in History, like Stalin or Hitler. Try to look in a serious way into the real History, and not the falsified history they've made you to learn.

Napoléon was simply defending France against constant foreign assaults. Just like Hitler was defending Germany. The comparison you're making with Stalin just show how much stupid and illiterate you are.

These Spaniards chauvinist are very funny by the way. Acting like cry babies when someone invade their country, but taking prides of slaughtering millions of indigenous in America. Haha, you really have no lesson to give.

Napoleon, as said, and as many many Historians recognise, was just the best mayor of Paris.

Recognise? Rather that they are biased people, often Spaniards or English. Many others, even when they are not French or Bonapartist, recognise his greatness.

[Diego Garcia]

I know that he kicked your ass, and that you deserved it.



Illiterate? Lol. I've probably read more than you about Napoléon. Notably the biography that Jacques Bainville wrote about him. Despite he was monarchist and not bonapartist, he recognised his genius and his heroism. You should read it, you may learn one thing or two.



The episode in Spain is thoroughly explained. Yes, he made a mistake, but the real question is: why did he make it? That's because Spain was too much weak and disorganized to be a stable and strong ally. So he had to intervene to put someone more reliable at its head. Also, he was no well advised, so he didn't know how much retarded and fanatics the Spaniards were. It's not his fault if the Spaniards were like this, otherwise he would have worked better.

So you just have to blame your own country. The only error of Napoléon have been to underestimate the level of retardness of the Spaniard but it was not really his fault.



Napoléon was simply defending France against constant foreign assaults. Just like Hitler was defending Germany. The comparison you're making with Stalin just show how much stupid and illiterate you are.

These Spaniards chauvinist are very funny by the way. Acting like cry babies when someone invade their country, but taking prides of slaughtering millions of indigenous in America. Haha, you really have no lesson to give.



Recognise? Rather that they are biased people, often Spaniards or English. Many others, even when they are not French or Bonapartist, recognise his greatness.

You brag here about knowing all History about Napoleon --you state to have read an entire book about him, precisely written by an french author of the XIX-- and, at the same time, you are putting morality and feeling into talking about History ("...and you deserve it").

Those facts are undoubtly marking you know a shit about History --the real and objective History and not the subjective and distorted one-- and, at the same time, you are a troll.

I suggest you to keep reading from several other authors and not only from a french nationalist-engaged intellectual. That's not true history, that's just ideology.

I am not even going to waste my time in reading the rest of your shit, your first paragraph was enough.

Napoleon was, at the best, the best mayor of Paris. Nothing more, nothing less.

And you are, at the best, another abducted/indoctrinated by a french nationalist born in the XIX century, dead in 1936, and, as all nationalists, they hyper-aggrandise ad infinitum their supposed heroes and facts.

[Centurion]

I suggest you to keep reading from several other authors and not only from a french nationalist-engaged intellectual. That's not true history, that's just ideology.

You are really a dumb guy. Bainville was not of the same ideology of Napoléon, he was not a Bonapartist. He simply analysed his flaws and his merits. Bainville loathed the Révolution. Napoléon was its inheritor and had to preserve it achievements. With such a legacy on his shoulders, it was inevitable for him to fail ultimately. It doesn't prevent that Bainville utltimately recognise his greatness and his genius.

There's no proof that your own references are objectives by the way. Rather, it's obvious since the beginning that you are just a Spaniard chauvinist among so many others which is totally biased and ignorant.

I am not even going to waste my time in reading the rest of your shit, your first paragraph was enough.

Yeah, better for you to hide yourself the truth I guess. It may be too hard to swallow.

[Diego Garcia]

You are really a dumb guy. Bainville was not of the same ideology of Napoléon, he was not a Bonapartist. He simply analysed his flaws and his merits. Bainville loathed the Révolution. Napoléon was its inheritor and had to preserve it achievements. With such a legacy on his shoulders, it was inevitable for him to fail ultimately. It doesn't prevent that Bainville utltimately recognise his greatness and his genius.

There's no proof that your own references are objectives by the way. Rather, it's obvious since the beginning that you are just a Spaniard chauvinist among so many others which is totally biased and ignorant.



Yeah, better for you to hide yourself the truth I guess. It may be too hard to swallow.

It's you who have no clue about nothing. C'mon, man. Go and find out what ideology means, in contrast to reality. You're not even able to understand certain terminology. You're not in disposition to hold any serious discussion about this. Go and get an adequate education first.

Our convo finishes here.

[Mortimer]

In honour of Napoleons death anniversary

[Davystayn]

I know that he kicked your ass, and that you deserved it.



Illiterate? Lol. I've probably read more than you about Napoléon. Notably the biography that Jacques Bainville wrote about him. Despite he was monarchist and not bonapartist, he recognised his genius and his heroism. You should read it, you may learn one thing or two.



The episode in Spain is thoroughly explained. Yes, he made a mistake, but the real question is: why did he make it? That's because Spain was too much weak and disorganized to be a stable and strong ally. So he had to intervene to put someone more reliable at its head. Also, he was no well advised, so he didn't know how much retarded and fanatics the Spaniards were. It's not his fault if the Spaniards were like this, otherwise he would have worked better.

So you just have to blame your own country. The only error of Napoléon have been to underestimate the level of retardness of the Spaniard but it was not really his fault.



Napoléon was simply defending France against constant foreign assaults. Just like Hitler was defending Germany. The comparison you're making with Stalin just show how much stupid and illiterate you are.

These Spaniards chauvinist are very funny by the way. Acting like cry babies when someone invade their country, but taking prides of slaughtering millions of indigenous in America. Haha, you really have no lesson to give.



Recognise? Rather that they are biased people, often Spaniards or English. Many others, even when they are not French or Bonapartist, recognise his greatness.

Napoleon was defending France against assault? By invading everyone? Hitler too?

Oh my come on, your total lack of being to look at this in any other way. Napoleon's campaigns were as pointless as WW1, and only slightly less destructive. First taste of total war, expect with muskets and men walking toward each other in ranks mowing each other down from point blank range. For nothing.

Yes admire Napoleon as a General and his victories by all means but celebrate him as those he is some kind of Messiah? wtf?

[Samnium]

Bainville is one of the most brilliant historians in France in the XXth century. Diego Garcia has no clue about what he writes.

His book "The political consequences of the peace", published in 1920 has been considered as a masterpiece of geopolitics and political analysis. Predicting Hitler a decade before and the rise of national-socialism in Germany. His "Histoire de France" is still a reference, a century after his publication. Others books like "Histoire continue de deux peuples" or "Napoleon" are also considered as masterpieces.

To make Bainville somehow like a "nationalistic ideologist" in attempt to qualifiy his work as propaganda, is blatantly dishonest and disgusting. Also, someone who really THINKS that the neutral historian exists, is deceived to a point...

Hyppolite Taine and Michelet who were very important historians in the XIXth century, praised Napoléon.

[Armenian Bishop]

[Armenian Bishop]