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    Default Do matriarchies always eventually get replaced by patriarchies?

    We have seen this countless of times throughout history. A good example being the patriarchal Indo-Europeans(R1) cucking the matriarchal indigenous farmers(G) and hunter gatherers(I2a). By matriarchy I mean more of a gynocracy where females are given rights and privileges of men but without the responsibility of men(which equals slavery of men). And I think we all know what patriarchy means so I don't need to give a definition.

    Will this eventually happen in the west as well? The situation being that as soon as women were given the right to vote and go into education and labor market, marriage rates and birth rates have fallen drastically. The state grew with this as well both welfare and regulations have risen. And now the west is importing immigrant men at the expensive of the local (European or European American) tax payer. This is a straight up cuckage via government. And its not a mystery that women support this on average more than men because it is importing more males to breed with(more choices are always seen as good by the brain because diversity is hardwired into the brain). Yet European men largely are not taking action about this fact and its like in their brains their tribal/protection instinct is turned off.

    The more of MENA men the west imports the more Islam spreads and more patriarchal society will become. Thus, another time matriarchy(gynocracy) will be replaced by a patriarchy. So I hope European men will be glad about their cuckage due to their embrace of free market libertarian ideology(over national socialism) provided to them from banker Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    We have seen this countless of times throughout history.
    Nope, it's a myth.
    It exists in some primitive degenerated sociaties, and today only 1% of people live in such societies.

    And I think we all know what patriarchy means so I don't need to give a definition.
    You should, because an average Apritician has a similar view of it as feminists have.

    Will this eventually happen in the west as well?
    Happened allready — if you mean privilegies without responsibility — what obviously leads to the destruction of society.
    But the problem is, that this process is not natural, but is implemented on purpose since many years step by step, and people are chosing this themselves in their stupidity and evilness.

    The situation being that as soon as women were given the right to vote and go into education and labor market, marriage rates and birth rates have fallen drastically. The state grew with this as well both welfare and regulations have risen. And now the west is importing immigrant men at the expensive of the local (European or European American) tax payer. This is a straight up cuckage via government.
    Yep.

    And its not a mystery that women support this on average more than men because it is importing more males to breed with(more choices are always seen as good by the brain because diversity is hardwired into the brain).
    Nope. It has nothing to do with it. More with stupidity.

    The more of MENA men the west imports the more Islam spreads and more patriarchal society will become.
    The patriarchy of muslims is debatable.
    If it is, then it is a patriarchy of mommy's boys which partialy is resulting in known pathologies among them.

    So I hope European men will be glad about their cuckage due to their embrace of free market libertarian ideology(over national socialism) provided to them from banker Jews.
    And this stupid conclusion explains, why every good idea is finaly not taking over, because the proposed antidote is just an oxymoronic bullshit, not only worse than disease itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Nope, it's a myth.
    It exists in some primitive degenerated sociaties, and today only 1% of people live in such societies.



    You should, because an average Apritician has a similar view of it as feminists have.



    Happened allready — if you mean privilegies without responsibility — what obviously leads to the destruction of society.
    But the problem is, that this process is not natural, but is implemented on purpose since many years step by step, and people are chosing this themselves in their stupidity and evilness.



    Yep.



    Nope. It has nothing to do with it. More with stupidity.



    The patriarchy of muslims is debatable.
    If it is, then it is a patriarchy of mommy's boys which partialy is resulting in known pathologies among them.



    And this stupid conclusion explains, why every good idea is finaly not taking over, because the proposed antidote is just an oxymoronic bullshit, not only worse than disease itself.
    1. Its not a myth. Humanity works in cycles going from patriarchy to matriarchy(gynocracy).

    2. The simplest definition of a patriarchy is men have the rights, privilege's, power, as well as all the responsibility. Matriarchy is women have all the power, privilege's, rights but none of the responsibility.

    3. It has happened but we are only in the beginning stages of feeling the effects of this transition.

    4. It is biologically imprinted in females mind to seek outsiders to breed with to promote diversity. Historically women married away from their birth tribe over time this effects evolution. Not just to do with stupidity. It's biologically driven.

    5. You might have a point there because Arab women are actually spoiled by their husband in muslim countries.

    6. What is your solution to this problem then? More free market? Complete freedom is not only good, as anything in life it comes with benefits and cons. One of the cons is that in a completely capitalist free market social cohesion and a sense of belonging to the group/tribe is stripped away by finiancial social class. There can never be a patriotic healthy completely capitalist society. There is also nothing in capitalist ideology that discourages immigration, infact its promoted to get more workers in the country to reduce labor costs. You have to choose a side, you cant eat your cake and have it too. You're either a nationalist or you're a capitalist. They are exclusive if you dig deep enough into what both of these ideologies incentivize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    1. Its not a myth. Humanity works in cycles going from patriarchy to matriarchy(gynocracy).
    Nope. It is a myth produced by 19th century cucks, which was acknowledged by atheistic scientists for a while
    (becasue was opposite to christian and biblical worldview), but since decades is totaly abandoned and disproved.

    2. The simplest definition of a patriarchy is men have the rights, privilege's, power, as well as all the responsibility. Matriarchy is women have all the power, privilege's, rights but none of the responsibility.
    Partialy yes.

    3. It has happened but we are only in the beginning stages of feeling the effects of this transition.
    The beginning was 100 or even 200+ years ago. Now is the conclusion, which according to the authors will not end in matriarchy, but in total dehumanization of everybody and taking children from parents at all. Femninism et consortes, was only a tool which should lead to the degeneration and destruction, and this goal is achived. Full effects cannot happen in wide society, because before that, society would collapse and/or some other guys (let's say f.e. muslims) would reestablish some kind of normalcy. But both scenarios will not happend. First because God's Kingdom is comming, second: because the first is too strong and would make impossible to resist in any way, but fortunatly, will be destroyed soon by God's Kingdom.

    4. It is biologically imprinted in females mind to seek outsiders to breed with to promote diversity. Historically women married away from their birth tribe over time this effects evolution. Not just to do with stupidity. It's biologically driven.
    Absolutely not. They are not supporting migration because they want to have men. They suppot it, becasue they follow the trend, the herd, and do what they were told to do. Historically they married away from their tribe because they were told to do so. They were captured or sold or just given in marrige by their fathers to another family, just because people were aware of the effects of inbreeding. Women didn't do this, because they decided on their own: "let's walk 2, 20, 200 kilometers and marry some foreign guy, yea!" It never happend, sorry. Women do not do such things and do not decide to do so on their own.

    6. What is your solution to this problem then?
    Certainly not a national socialism, as socialism is a source of all our problemes.
    Guys who are brainwashed to think, that socialism will help to fight socialism
    are just morons and completly don't understand what they are talking about.

    More free market?
    Yes, but this what we have today is NOT a free market.
    It is another myth in which people belive, the same as the feministic believe in an
    evil patriarchy which supposedly is destroying women every day in Western World.
    Both views are from the same mental house.

    Complete freedom is not only good, as anything in life it comes with benefits and cons.
    You confuse capitalism with corporationism and free market with libertinism.

    One of the cons is that in a completely capitalist free market social cohesion and a sense of belonging to the group/tribe is stripped away by finiancial social class.
    Oh come on. Tribal identity has nothing to do with money or social classes.

    There can never be a patriotic healthy completely capitalist society.
    Can be never...? It was before socialists started to spread their bullshit.
    Society was healthy, was patriotic, was religious, and was... capitalistic.
    Stop to repeat some neo-nazis propaganda bullshit. It's not real.

    There is also nothing in capitalist ideology that discourages immigration, infact its promoted to get more workers in the country to reduce labor costs.
    Yes and no. The fact that you have capitalism 1. makes immigration much less probable, 2. doesn't mean, that there cannot be some restrictions in that sphere. Can be, can be not. Again, you are affraid about some humbug, which exists in nazis propaganda. Even protectionism isn't totaly exclude. Can be, and can be not.

    You have to choose a side, you cant eat your cake and have it too.
    No, you have to just come down to the earth.
    You have totaly warped by leftist propaganda view of reality.

    You're either a nationalist or you're a capitalist.


    They are exclusive if you dig deep enough into what both of these ideologies incentivize.
    Strengly, people were much more nationalistic (in good sense) under capitalism than under socialism.
    And they were, because they wanted to be, not because some red schmuck with silly moustache made them to be.
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    The matriarchal shift in the West has been documented by socio-anthropologists, and it has more to do with their relative higher % in terms of students in college and universities (meaning more women do higher studies than men nowadays)

    There is another flaw in your argumentation :
    - let's agree with the first part of relative demographic replacement in the West of the native White Christian population by extra-Europeans, often Muslims.
    You are assuming therefore it will automatically lead to re-patriarchalization of the West.

    But that's the flow : believing the future mixed-race Euro and the children of Muslim immigrants, will remain Muslims and not be themselves in the globohomo postmodern pro-LGBT pro-feminist pro-environment liberal-leftist ideology.

    In fact, the most probable outcome, not only in the West, but also in the Arab-Muslim countries, is a massive and rapid secularization process as people are more and more literate and connected to the rest of the World thanks of globalization.

    Is it a good or bad thing ? That's just the way it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    The matriarchal shift in the West has been documented by socio-anthropologists, and it has more to do with their relative higher % in terms of students in college and universities (meaning more women do higher studies than men nowadays)

    There is another flaw in your argumentation :
    - let's agree with the first part of relative demographic replacement in the West of the native White Christian population by extra-Europeans, often Muslims.
    You are assuming therefore it will automatically lead to re-patriarchalization of the West.

    But that's the flow : believing the future mixed-race Euro and the children of Muslim immigrants, will remain Muslims and not be themselves in the globohomo postmodern pro-LGBT pro-feminist pro-environment liberal-leftist ideology.

    In fact, the most probable outcome, not only in the West, but also in the Arab-Muslim countries, is a massive and rapid secularization process as people are more and more literate and connected to the rest of the World thanks of globalization.

    Is it a good or bad thing ? That's just the way it is.
    That's actually a good point and more likely tbh. But there comes a tipping point I think. Because this system doesn't work in the long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    That's actually a good point and more likely tbh. But there comes a tipping point I think. Because this system doesn't work in the long term.
    Despite the "self-cucking" of the West, we cannot exclude a sudden boiling point where the ideological bargaining power shifts towards radical nationalism and xenophobia (i.e. "people are fed up of foreigners") and lead to civil wars scenario, like in Lebanon and ex-Yugoslavia

    That's what the Jewish elite wants in order to destroy both the West and the Muslim world
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    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    That's actually a good point and more likely tbh. But there comes a tipping point I think. Because this system doesn't work in the long term.
    Despite the "self-cucking" of the West, we cannot exclude a sudden boiling point where the ideological bargaining power shifts towards radical nationalism and xenophobia (i.e. "people are fed up of foreigners") and lead to civil wars scenario, like in Lebanon and ex-Yugoslavia

    That's what the Jewish elite wants in order to destroy both the West and the Muslim world
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    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    We have seen this countless of times throughout history. A good example being the patriarchal Indo-Europeans(R1) cucking the matriarchal indigenous farmers(G) and hunter gatherers(I2a). By matriarchy I mean more of a gynocracy where females are given rights and privileges of men but without the responsibility of men(which equals slavery of men). And I think we all know what patriarchy means so I don't need to give a definition.

    Will this eventually happen in the west as well? The situation being that as soon as women were given the right to vote and go into education and labor market, marriage rates and birth rates have fallen drastically. The state grew with this as well both welfare and regulations have risen. And now the west is importing immigrant men at the expensive of the local (European or European American) tax payer. This is a straight up cuckage via government. And its not a mystery that women support this on average more than men because it is importing more males to breed with(more choices are always seen as good by the brain because diversity is hardwired into the brain). Yet European men largely are not taking action about this fact and its like in their brains their tribal/protection instinct is turned off.

    The more of MENA men the west imports the more Islam spreads and more patriarchal society will become. Thus, another time matriarchy(gynocracy) will be replaced by a patriarchy. So I hope European men will be glad about their cuckage due to their embrace of free market libertarian ideology(over national socialism) provided to them from banker Jews.
    Nigga, you are retarded we do not live in a laisse-faire free market libertarian society e.g. Keynesian, welfare and and social security etc... exist.

    In liberterianism the state can't cuck you e.g. force you to pay alimony and welfare because the state is too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Nigga, you are retarded we do not live in a laisse-faire free market libertarian society e.g. Keynesian, welfare and and social security etc... exist.

    In liberterianism the state can't cuck you e.g. force you to pay alimony and welfare because the state is too small.
    Your landlord can cuck you tho.

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