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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Yes but in Guatemala at least, they don't have the same prestige or legal status that Guarani does in Paraguay. (Bolivia has become more pro-indigenous since Morales came along, but I don't think it was so much before then either).
    Ok but it's the Peruvians who have more of a problem being an indigena nation .Just watch youtube videos of race in Peru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    Ok but it's the Peruvians who have more of a problem being an indigena nation .Just watch youtube videos of race in Peru.
    Or indeed the Peruvians we have on this very forum.

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    Bolivia linguistically is less amerindian than Paraguay

    Good luck searching for quechua or aymara speaking bolivians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Or indeed the Peruvians we have on this very forum.
    South America is very euro centric. So im not surprised Peruvians are euro centric to lmaoooo. Peruvians on youtube are very euro centric too. lmaoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger0075 View Post
    Bolivia linguistically is less amerindian than Paraguay

    Good luck searching for quechua or aymara speaking bolivians
    You are right.
    In the cities practically nobody speaks in Aymara or Quichua...
    Some folks in the deep western Bolivia they still talk (especially in Oruro and Potosí departamentos), but judging the most of the country it's a rarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Yes but in Guatemala at least, they don't have the same prestige or legal status that Guarani does in Paraguay. (Bolivia has become more pro-indigenous since Morales came along, but I don't think it was so much before then either).
    See this, Tooting, Guaraní is co-oficial in Corrientes province:

    https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaran%C3%AD_correntino

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    Hola/Haupéi, I'm a new member from Paraguay.

    Basically, the reason why we've been able to retain our language is due to our Isolation and a combination of other socio-cultural factors. The Jesuits did indeed learned the language in order to communicate with the Native tribes, but I don't really think this is enough to explain the modern day prevalence of the language. The language probably was already widespread in the Country due to the fact that there were so many Natives living at that time compared to the Spanish population. When more Spaniards arrived and mixed with the local indigenous women, their children were taught both Guarani and Spanish. So, like Tooting Carmen said, there wasn't a social stigma against the language, or at least not as much as in other Latin American Countries. However, overtime, the language did began to decline in social status.

    Nowadays, most people speak what is called Jopará, which is basically an interesting combination of Guarani and Spanish, but with Spanish vocabulary being more dominant overall.

    Greetings to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    Ok but it's the Peruvians who have more of a problem being an indigena nation .Just watch youtube videos of race in Peru.
    I think this is a shame, I think the Inca culture is so cool, when I visited Peru I went to Cusco, a beautiful city, the way the Inca and Spanish architecture come together in Cusco is beautiful. And Machu Picchu undoubtedly one of the most amazing places I have ever visited, I wonder how anyone can be ashamed of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Bosco View Post
    Hola/Haupéi, I'm a new member from Paraguay.

    Basically, the reason why we've been able to retain our language is due to our Isolation and a combination of other socio-cultural factors. The Jesuits did indeed learned the language in order to communicate with the Native tribes, but I don't really think this is enough to explain the modern day prevalence of the language. The language probably was already widespread in the Country due to the fact that there were so many Natives living at that time compared to the Spanish population. When more Spaniards arrived and mixed with the local indigenous women, their children were taught both Guarani and Spanish. So, like Tooting Carmen said, there wasn't a social stigma against the language, or at least not as much as in other Latin American Countries. However, overtime, the language did began to decline in social status.

    Nowadays, most people speak what is called Jopará, which is basically an interesting combination of Guarani and Spanish, but with Spanish vocabulary being more dominant overall.

    Greetings to everyone.

    Also because the first Grammar and Vocabulary of the Guarani were made by the first missionaires there. It was a not-written language, without any alphabet, which those missionaires gave the latin alphabet to, besides. The Spanish Grammar of Nebrija, 1492, was very useful for this purpose.

    Many of the indigenous languages of the Americas had Grammars much before than many European languages, thanks to the Grammar of Nebrija and the exquisite labour of these missionaires.

    And many of these indigenous languages were even taught in the universities in Spanish America --practically the only ones in the continent, the rest of european countries in there built none--, like the quichua in Lima.

    I wonder why you arent taught about these small details by your educational system over there.

    Is it forbidden to say any positive things about the Spaniards in your republics or what?


    La primera gramática guaraní data de 1643 y fue redactada por Alonso de Aragona. Este jesuita no dudó a la hora de hacer un estudio detallado del idioma, que comienza con un diccionario y que prosigue con la inclusión de los orígenes de los verbos, los adjetivos y los sustantivos más utilizados. En su conclusión deja claro que lo más práctico es escuchar a los indígenas para avanzar en el aprendizaje.

    No fue hasta 1992 qué el guaraní se convirtió en idioma oficial del estado de Paraguay a través de la Constitución del año 1992 que estableció en el artículo 140 (De los idiomas) que:

    “Son idiomas oficiales el castellano y el guaraní y la ley establecerá las modalidades de utilización de uno y otro. Las lenguas indígenas, así como las de otras minorías, forman parte del patrimonio cultural de la Nación.”
    https://elblogdeidiomas.es/el-idioma...s-coloquiales/

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    This language must be official in more Southern American countries.
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