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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    This averages obviously are influenced by Non-Uzbeks, even Tadjikistan Uzbeks which i saw often have more than 30% east eurasian. Differences between Tadjiks and Uzbeks aren’t clear often and it is just a matter of self identification and Uzbekistan/Tadjikistan have both rigorous assimilation policies, often people don’t know what they really are.
    And steppe admixture was always represented among Turkics or Non-IE people from Central Asia, also „mongoloid“ is often fallacious, not every east eurasian admixture is of Mongolian origin, since nowadays Mongolia was not fully east eurasian all the time.
    what are you talking about still i don`t understand but,
    just i explained mongoloid averages of Turkmen_TM and Uzbek because of i posted 2way of a 10-12% east eurasian Turkish

    Distance to: Ağaçören
    3.24047391 43.00% Greek_Cappadocia + 57.00% Turkmen_Iran
    3.75135728 42.60% Greek_Rhodes +57.40% Turkmen_TM
    3.86345426 42.40% Greek_Cappadocia + 57.60% Turkmen_TM
    3.97305643 43.20% Greek_Kos + 56.80% Turkmen_TM
    4.29293255 39.00% Greek_Icaria + 61.00% Turkmen_TM
    4.29914317 40.00% Greek_Cypriot + 60.00% Turkmen_TM
    4.51487248 58.60% Armenian_West + 41.40% Uzbek
    4.51630387 40.20% Greek_Cypriot + 59.80% Turkmen_Iran
    4.56074155 52.60% Greek_Cappadocia + 47.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    4.69868882 42.80% Greek_Rhodes + 57.20% Turkmen_Iran
    4.92440877 43.40% Greek_Crete + 56.60% Turkmen_TM
    4.93853945 59.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 40.80% Uzbek
    4.96163223 43.40% Greek_Kos + 56.60% Turkmen_Iran
    4.96722141 60.20% Armenian_East + 39.80% Uzbek
    4.99277744 53.60% Armenian_East + 46.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    5.10129263 42.40% Greek_Fournoi + 57.60% Turkmen_TM
    5.14957822 52.00% Armenian_West + 48.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    5.41167877 41.80% Armenian_West + 58.20% Turkmen_Iran
    5.45262180 47.20% Greek_Pontus + 52.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    5.47436451 41.00% Greek_Izmir + 59.00% Turkmen_TM
    5.63084325 58.60% Assyrian_West + 41.40% Uzbek
    5.69542524 60.20% Armenian_West + 39.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
    5.72498775 43.20% Armenian_East + 56.80% Turkmen_Iran
    5.73497071 60.80% Armenian_West + 39.20% Uzbeki
    5.77433730 38.80% Greek_Icaria + 61.20% Turkmen_Iran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kross View Post
    All Turks are Turanids, there are no other phenotypes there.
    I don't think there a nation in the world whose people are only of a single anthropological phenotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    I don't think there a nation in the world whose people are only of a single anthropological phenotype.
    If you're a mixed race between Caucasoid and Mongoloid you're gonna be Turanid, simply that. You can't be a Caucasoid phenotype such as Pontid when you're mixed race with 60% Central Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
    what are you talking about still i don`t understand but,
    just i explained mongoloid averages of Turkmen_TM and Uzbek because of i posted 2way of a 10% east eurasian Turkish
    How many times do you wanna show this modeling list, it doesn’t change the fact that your comments aren’t accurate. It could be right that many are clustering with Turkmens of Iran or some parts of Turkmenistan, but they aren’t a proxy for early Oghuz Turks. And you highlighted 40% Uzbek which is nonsense, at most for Yörüks or Giresunlu this could be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    How many times do you wanna show this modeling list, it doesn’t change the fact that your comments aren’t accurate. It could be right that many are clustering with Turkmens of Iran or some parts of Turkmenistan, but they aren’t a proxy for early Oghuz Turks. And you highlighted 40% Uzbek which is nonsense, at most for Yörüks or Giresunlu this could be right.
    when will you learn reading? probably you can just speak german not Turkish and English
    i didn`t say they are proxy for early Oghuz Turks i just said we are between modern central asians and west asians

    if we are talking about how % Turkish people are proto Oghuz Turk then here is a 10-11% east eurasian person from my hometown

    3.22862657 72.80% Anatolian + 27.20% KAZ_Karakhanid
    3.25806017 71.80% Anatolian + 28.20% KAZ_Kimak
    3.62994548 66.20% Anatolian + 33.80% DA89_Kazakhstan_GokTurk.SG_1206_ybp

    KAZ_Kimak and KAZ_Karakhanid are 45-50% east asian
    DA89_Gokturk is 38% east asian


    Hırsın yüzünden okuyamıyorsun bile senin amacın beni çürütmek tartışmak değil!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
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    And still your comments are wrong or not precise, Central Asia is like Westasia, it is not a homogeneous region ethnically or genetically. If you try to attack me with your miserable school education you just show that 1.) you arent adult enough to discuss decently 2) your knowledge about genetics, history and culture is intensely deficient. Beeing personal and trying to attack me with talking my language skills down don’t make your misleading comments right nor they making your repeating postings instructive. If you think I am just here to run you down you are wrong, otherwise i would have reported you to a mod already how you talked about Christians and Christianity here, no I just want to clarify that most of your postings aren’t accurate and often full if mistakes.

    You can give thumbs downs but you know that you are wrong. Insulting and giving thumbs down is a character of weak insecure people. I know for you and your other accounts it is just an enjoyment to troll but people like me who are seriously interested in to genetics or history and not to nonsense like „he is bingo-trotolid“ don’t have bad intentions to anything. Hadi sana daha iyi eğlenceler “Ankaralı”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    And still your comments are wrong or not precise, Central Asia is like Westasia, it is not a homogeneous region ethnically or genetically. If you try to attack me with your miserable school education you just show that 1.) you arent adult enough to discuss decently 2) your knowledge about genetics, history and culture is intensely deficient. Beeing personal and trying to attack me with talking my language skills down don’t make your misleading comments right nor they making your repeating postings instructive. If you think I am just here to run you down you are wrong, otherwise i would have reported you to a mod already how you talked about Christians and Christianity here, no I just want to clarify that most of your postings aren’t accurate and often full if mistakes.
    what are Turks according to you? How Turkish people aren't between among west asia and modern central asian still i can't understand
    Also you are attacking my knowledge everyone can see who knows genetics a bit, modern Turks are clearly between modern central asians and west asians

    You don't know anything about Turkish people i am definitely sure i know turkish culture history more than you
    Even you can't speak Turkish truly
    Also you are insulting me everytime but i am not crying to mods like you
    Lol also what i said to christanity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armenian Bishop View Post
    Most of the Eastern half of Turkey is historically Armenian
    AS FAR AS I KNOW; history doesnt start with armenians and i can bring a lot of nations here which owned eastern part of Turkey *historically* long before armenians.

    (should i even try to educate an armenoid?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kross View Post
    When you say that they're West Asian, you basically legitimize their presence in Anatolia which is Greek lands since 4000 years ago.

    People here need to stop classifying Turks as Pontid, Armenoid, or whatever Caucasoid phenotype! Turks are not even Caucasoid, they're mixed race!

    All Turks are Turanids, there are no other phenotypes there.

    They speak a Turkic language, identify as such, and look as such.

    Turks are just Central Asians.
    You need to brush up on your Anatolian history man. Turks are not a homogenized mongrel bunch as you think. Various regions have genetic strains that run for thousands of years, Anatolia was one of the first Indo European strongholds, and has been inhabited ever since by related ethnic groups.
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    Turks are West Asian and Greek.

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