No, southern Europeans have no reason to want to be northern Europeans.

[Jana]

When i say working class Europe, i mean the countries that made this country great, their people is the only people that truly belongs to this soil. Also native americans, nothing agains't them.

Are you joking? You include Slovakia but not Croatia? Lmao.
Croatian Americans are one of most successful and influential Slavic/Eastern European groups in the US, only complete idiot can not mention them but include much less relevant groups.

Not including Greeks (very successful and relevant Euro Americans) and mentioning north instead of south Italians (when vast majority of relevant Italians in US are from south - north Italians are pretty irrelevant in US unlike in Brazil for example) makes me wonder are you American at all.

[Blondie]

When i say working class Europe, i mean the countries that made this country great, their people is the only people that truly belongs to this soil. Also native americans, nothing agains't them.

Austria-Hungary had the most numerous nobility in Europe, many people had noble title including many count, prince, middle nobility, lesser nobility etc and of course the imperial Habsburg family too, this dynasty was the greatest and most influential ruler family in Europe, even today the independent Austria and Hungary are benefited a lot because of the relations of modern Habsburgs. So the nobility class is very important factor here. But i think it's also true for England, Spain, Poland etc.

[Ayetooey]

This is the best of Europe, the white working-class high IQ Europe.

This is just obnoxious and anthrotardish. West vs East division is much more relevant in recent history. Grouping ex Warsaw pact countries with the west of Europe and ignoring Italy, Iberia etc is laughble.

[IndoEuropeanR1b]

This is just obnoxious and anthrotardish. West vs East division is much more relevant in recent history. Grouping ex Warsaw pact countries with the west of Europe and ignoring Italy, Iberia etc is laughble.

Guess i posted a shitty map. Let me give you a more accurate one:



Truly americans came from this whole place.

Austria-Hungary had the most numerous nobility in Europe, many people had noble title including many count, prince, middle nobility, lesser nobility etc and of course the imperial Habsburg family too, this dynasty was the greatest and most influential ruler family in Europe, even today the independent Austria and Hungary are benefited a lot because of the relations of modern Habsburgs. So the nobility class is very important factor here. But i think it's also true for England, Spain, Poland etc.

My dear, nobility didn't came to America, it was the working class, that is the main reason i speak of Working Class, the one who built this country and places like Canada or Australia.

Are you joking? You include Slovakia but not Croatia? Lmao.
Croatian Americans are one of most successful and influential Slavic/Eastern European groups in the US, only complete idiot can not mention them but include much less relevant groups.

Not including Greeks (very successful and relevant Euro Americans) and mentioning north instead of south Italians (when vast majority of relevant Italians in US are from south - north Italians are pretty irrelevant in US unlike in Brazil for example) makes me wonder are you American at all.

Like i said before, the picture sucks, i actually don't care about croatians but, as i said before, Croatia seems like a good country and i have nothing agaisn't them coming to America. South, North, West, or what ever italians, i don't feel any afinity with them, but honestly, i highly prefer some wops than any hispanic or nigger.

I am american by the way.

[Jana]

Like i said before, the picture sucks, i actually don't care about croatians but, as i said before, Croatia seems like a good country and i have nothing agaisn't them coming to America. South, North, West, or what ever italians, i don't feel any afinity with them, but honestly, i highly prefer some wops than any hispanic or nigger.

I am american by the way.

I don't care for your preferences, but don't claim north Italians or Slovaks built America because their contribution is far more irrelevant compared to that of south Italians, Greeks and Croats.
And when already mentioning eastern Europeans there are Rusyns who are small group in Europe but very relevant in the US.

[IndoEuropeanR1b]

I don't care for your preferences, but don't claim north Italians or Slovaks built America because their contribution is far more irrelevant compared to that of south Italians, Greeks and Croats.
And when already mentioning eastern Europeans there are Rusyns who are small group in Europe but very relevant in the US.

Like i don't care at all about your claims. When did i say slovaks and north italians built America? LOL. The ones who truly built this fucking country are the ones who i share a common heritage and maybe, west germans and irish. The rest of them came after WWI and WWII, it is incomparable.

[Blondie]

This is just obnoxious and anthrotardish. West vs East division is much more relevant in recent history. Grouping ex Warsaw pact countries with the west of Europe and ignoring Italy, Iberia etc is laughble.

Yes, but this east-west thing is also not really correct, for example Spain and Sweden belong to West division but there is a world difference between them. I think the european regional divisions are: South Europe, West Europe, North Europe, Baltic States, East Europe, Central Europe and Balkans. The countries in these divisions are pretty similar, for example Serbia is similar to Bosnia, Bulgaria or Ukraine is similar to Russia, or Hungary is similar to Slovakia, or Norway is similar to Sweden etc, these are geographical and cultural regions at same time.

[Blondie]

My dear, nobility didn't came to America, it was the working class, that is the main reason i speak of Working Class, the one who built this country and places like Canada or Australia.

Okay this is an american point of view, but this thing is totally irrelevant in Europe.

[Jana]

Like i don't care at all about your claims. When did i say slovaks and north italians built America? LOL. The ones who truly built this fucking country are the ones who i share a common heritage and maybe, west germans and irish. The rest of them came after WWI and WWII, it is incomparable.

Complete nonsense. Central and Eastern Europeans as well as Italians started arriving in US en masse already in second half of 19th century.

[renaissance12]

95% of Tri-Veneto immigrants ( crosss the ocean ) went to south america..

Veneti in Brasil...