No, southern Europeans have no reason to want to be northern Europeans.

[renaissance12]

That reminds me commies who say Cuba is rich and developed and have the best healthcare system of the world.

Cuba is really 3rd world like it was 3rd world Hungary till 30 years ago..Today in European comunity ( € currency) there is no 3rd world country.. How old are you .. mentally speaking ?
Your post confirm that you don't know what you are talking about..

[Centurion]

But in south Italy the cost of the life is not high and the food is excellent..

The GDP per capita is calculated in PPP (Purchase Power Parity), and take in account the cost of living. And even when we take this into account, South Italy is poor.

Ethiopia also has excellent food, does it mean that Ethiopia is rich and developed?

Don't forget Norway... Before the discovery of petrol 50-60 years ago Norway was not richer than Spain..

Norway was already richer than Spain in 1925. That was 96 years ago, not 50-60 years ago.

Cuba is really 3rd world

Which demonstrates that a "good healthcare" is not a determinant mark of development.

[renaissance12]

That reminds me commies who say Cuba is rich and developed and have the best healthcare system of the world.



Same for France.




Actually, Iberians are the perfect demonstrations that colonial conquest don't result in greatness. Mongols have also conquered a lot of lands, does it mean than Mongolia is rich and developed? No. Same for Iberians, whom all the conquest (that they have all lost anyway) never prevented them to be the red lantern of Western Europe. Iberians languages may be more spoken than French, German or Italian. But it's France, Germany and Italy which form (with UK) the big 4 of achievements. Not Iberians countries. The quantity of people speaking their language don't compensate the lower quality of their culture. Iberians countries have tried hard to compensate their mediocrity with colonial pursuits giving them an illusion of greatness, and eventually failed.

Since 5 century B.C. everything ( in Europe ) started in Italy..

Untill the discovery of steady current ( Volta pile 1800 A.D.) the technology in Europe was below the technology of the Roman Empire 2000 years ago..

The question is..: How much Italian is Europe ? 90% or more..

Italians had been on the top for more than 2000 years... and in the last 200 years Italians have never been below the average in Western Europe..

The Italians taught the French everything.

From cooking to music from arts to algebra and mathematics, from science to literature... from fashion to parfume..

Italians had never gone abroad to learn .. Never

[renaissance12]

The GDP per capita is calculated in PPP (Purchase Power Parity), and take in account the cost of living. And even when we take this into account, South Italy is poor.

Ethiopia also has excellent food, does it mean that Ethiopia is rich and developed?

What is the food of Ethiopia ?..


Do you mean this map ?

[Cristiano viejo]

Hum no. Not by far. Actually France and UK are almost twins in term of population and GDP. https://www.ft.com/content/f372cbb8-...4-c742b9791d43

hahaha, dont make me laugh.

And Spain has been far poorer than France and UK for countless decades, I don't need to tell you the same 1000 times.

And I admit it. Now admit yourself France is along Spain one of the poorest countries in Western Europe

I have not leaved it for Spain, that's pretty telling about the Spanish mediocrity.

hahaha yeah, that is why you chose Hungary

Yes, France is historically composed by diverse influences, Celtic, Romance, Germanic, Basque, but not historically as semitized as Spain.

Not only as semitized but Maghrefied and negrified. France has had lot of Jewish presidents and ministers. No comment about celebrities.
And dont forget, the most famous person in the entire history of France was... an Italian. Pathetic.

[renaissance12]

Not only as semitized but Maghrefied and negrified. France has had lot of Jewish presidents and ministers. No comment about celebrities.
And dont forget, the most famous person in the entire history of France was... an Italian. Pathetic.

Don't forget Caterina de Medici and Lully





This (below ) man is not a man.. he is a PIG...

[slaog]

Since 5 century B.C. everything ( in Europe ) started in Italy..

Untill the discovery of steady current ( Volta pile 1800 A.D.) the technology in Europe was below the technology of the Roman Empire 2000 years ago..

The question is..: How much Italian is Europe ? 90% or more..

Italians had been on the top for more than 2000 years... and in the last 200 years Italians have never been below the average in Western Europe..

The Italians taught the French everything.

From cooking to music from arts to algebra and mathematics, from science to literature... from fashion to parfume..

Italians had never gone abroad to learn .. Never

Much of the Roman technology came from Gallic inventions.

[Ygsi]

Well, Nordids are better looking. Also Nordids are more worthy of being envied than any other populations.

[renaissance12]

Much of the Roman technology came from Gallic inventions.

Do you mean gauls from north Italy ?

[Luso]

Well, Nordids are better looking. Also Nordids are more worthy of being envied than any other populations.

that's an opinion with high subjectiveness. I would not want to look like a nordid for one.