No, southern Europeans have no reason to want to be northern Europeans.

[Damião de Góis]

Spain has been less developed than France during the last 3 decades. And was already less developed during the 19th century. I've already mentioned it and proved it in previous posts. It's even more true for Portugal and you, Portos, are just sucking the cock of your Espagouin Big Brother, in a vain attempt to make a point.

My point was that HDI is a very dubious way to see who is more developed than who. For example Ireland's GDP per capita skyrocketed because a lot of American giant companies decided to move there in order to not pay taxes and now suddenly Ireland is more developed than the United States (2nd place vs 17th place)? I don't think so.

But if you are going to use it then be aware that as it stands, countries like Slovenia, Israel (oh and Spain) "are more developed than" France.

But in any case i wasn't aware that you were a retard that used the language of a 13 year old. I don't login here to have discussions along the lines of:

"U SuCk ThE CoCk Of ThE BiG BrOtHeR"

[Gaditanian]

Germanic peoples didn't destroy Rome. It's just the propaganda of the time which pretend that. Namely St Augustin and others. Most things that had been said about the "Babarian cruelty" are just Roman tales and anti-pagan Christian propaganda. Germanic peoples protected the Roman Empire, they restored order and defended social justice in the provinces they administered. Their rules and their laws were far more fair and lenient and less cruel than the Roman ones. The so called "Great Invasions", saved the civilization in the West. Without them, the process of semitisation, and therefore, the decline of the West would have continued until it finally reach a level close to Africa.

Don't forget that the Semitic invaders entered in Europe thanks to the visigoth traitors.

Franks saved the western civilization.

[lei.talk]

[Cristiano viejo]

Don't forget that the Semitic invaders entered in Europe thanks to the visigoth traitors.

Franks saved the western civilization.

Franks saved France. Celtiberians saved Spain. Or were there Franks in Covadonga?

Franks even were defeated in Roncesvalles by Basques when they decided to come to Iberia

[Ruggery]

Geez, good question it is not your fault but I have been posting on a smart phone which can be tedious so I will keep it terse.

1.) America is not a Democracy but an Oligarchy

2.) America used to be a Libertarian country from about 1776 to the 1930s but now ranks not even in the top 15 or so 'free countries'.

3.) America used to have a WASP ruling class caste who practiced noblesse oblige but now is some kind of liberal multi-cult transgender dysfunctional divided country.

4.) Americans butchered the English language

5.) Americans are slobs

6.) Americans are too warlike. Certainly if Britain was still the world superpower there would be less wars.

In the last point, how do you know that he would be like this? The British when they had their empire fought many battles, they also invaded countries like the United States.

[renaissance12]

There's nothing eastern about Hungary culturally, unless you mean recent communist heritage. It's a great paradox, country founded by steppe Eurasians was for centuries one of most European cultures around, much more Europeanised than southern Italy for example.

Music is the key to understand every culture..

IN NAPLES BAROQUE MUSIC WAS VERY WIDESPREAD LONG BEFORE HUNGARY HEARD EVEN ONE MUSICAL NOTE OF BAROQUE MUSIC.

PS. The craddle of Western Classical Music is not Scandinavia.. It is ITALY from north to Sicily. Germans English French classical music composer arrived much later, when the structure of melody and harmony in music were well established..

Violino Viola and Pianoforte are Italian inventions..

By the 18th century, Naples was nicknamed the "conservatory of Europe" and was home and workshop to composers such as Alessandro Scarlatti, Pergolesi, Niccolò Piccinni, Domenico Cimarosa, Rossini, Bellini, Donizetti

Pietro Alessandro Gaspare Scarlatti (2 May 1660 – 22 October 1725) was an Italian Baroque composer, known especially for his operas and chamber cantatas. He is considered the most important representative of the Neapolitan school of opera. He was the father of two other composers, Domenico Scarlatti and Pietro Filippo Scarlatti.
Scarlatti was born in Palermo Sicily..




Palermo XVII XVIII century...

[Cristiano viejo]

Violino Viola and Pianoforte are Italian inventions..

And the guitar is Spanish. What about the North European musical inventions? drums with whale bones, I guess

[L.o.l.i.t.a]

How funny it is to see 'nordicists' using a LATIN ALPHABET to say that 'today the north is more developed than the south' after being literally civilized by the south in every way. Not to mention that the English industrial revolution would not have occurred without the accumulation of precious metals that arrived in Europe with the exploitation of Latin America by Portugal and Spain.

[JamesBond007]

In the last point, how do you know that he would be like this? The British when they had their empire fought many battles, they also invaded countries like the United States.

America is the most warlike nation in the history of the world the USA has been at peace for only 16 of its 242 years as a nation. Americans are brainwashed into thinking America is so great that everywhere has to adopt Americans principles.

[Cristiano viejo]

America is the most warlike nation in the history of the world the USA has been at peace for only 16 of its 242 years as a nation. ]

Probably Israel overcomes it. No comment that lot of these American wars also were FOR Israel