No, southern Europeans have no reason to want to be northern Europeans.

[RogueState]

The inferiority complex among some Southern Europeans is that real reasons of Nordicism, in fact, rarely I observe Northern Europeans being supremacists both online or IRL, but more often, Southern and/or Eastern European college-"educated" urbanites that are wannabe Westerners and praise the "calm, discipline, civilized, progressive-liberal West/Northern Europe" and spit on their own heritage (or just are ashamed/mocking their own ethno-culture).

The phenotypical admiration for Nordic features is completely linked with this inferiority complex and ethno-cultural admiration. You don't see a Nordicism shifted towards Northeast Europe (Belarus, Russia, Ukraine).

In short, the more "you pass" physically "Northwestern", the "more civilized" you are in their subconsciousness...

And this is not only online, but an IRL phenomenom (even more brutal and obvious among extra-Europeans, it's not just of internal European "colorism" : being more Euro-Caucasoid looking with fair complexion, light-skinned is praised among Latin Americans, MENA, South Asians, East Asians, even among SSA)

[Sebastianus Rex]

Lol, Russia invented spacecraft and have an aircraft industry, what is the Spanish or Italian aviation company?(and i am not talking about Iberia or Alitalia) As for the rest, that is what communism and low birthrates does to you, wait until they bounce back like Ireland has and you will see burgeoning economies i think, there is a lot of untapped potential in the Baltic.

I would be disappointed if you are not aware that the USSR developed nuclear warfare and their spacial program thanks to espionage, stealing western technology (mostly German and from the USA).

On the other hand, Russia never was able to produce even a semi decent automobile, nothing in the league of Fiat, Seat...let alone Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini etc etc

Airbus is the European aviation conglomerate, one of the main centers is near Madrid since a long time ago...and yeah they are way better than crappy Tupolevs and even Boeing for that matter.

[Oliver109]

I would be disappointed if you are not aware that the USSR developed nuclear warfare and their spacial program thanks to espionage, stealing western technology (mostly German and from the USA).

On the other hand, Russia never was able to produce even a semi decent automobile, nothing in the league of Fiat, Seat...let alone Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini etc etc

Airbus is the European aviation conglomerate, one of the main centers is near Madrid since a long time ago...and yeah they are way better than crappy Tupolevs and even Boeing for that matter.

Where they got the technology is a little irrelevant, fact is that Russia was way ahead of the Med and most of east Asia when it came to the space race, next you'll be saying that Russia and western Europe got their knowledge of metal technology from the Med way back in the Neolithic.

Space technology>>>>>>>car technology

Airbus is primarily French, American, British, N Euro, what parts of the plane are even produced in Spain? and the vast amount of development was carried out in Toulouse or north of there.

[Charlemagne7]

No, all the Nordic countries are not rich. Russia, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania are not rich.


Northern-looking countrymen?? juas, you can not be more nordicist thinking they look Northern



MENA looking Spaniards, JUAS. And there are already people to open these thread. People like you.

Why do you people dont open threads about MENA looking Americans, British, Germans etc for example?

I open them, and unfortunately they aren't as popular as MENA-looking Southern Europeans for whatever reason.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Look at the Nobel prizes and inventions/achievements. British/German/Swedish/USA are on top with a bit french and Italian.
Spain was 800 yrs under Arab rule and only had a short flourishing during colonialism 16/17th century until the Armada got crushed by smaller British ships.

The Armada wasn't crushed by English vessels you ignorant, there was even barely any battle, in order to avoid the blockade the Spanish made the mistake of going around England where they faced a terrible storm and that way the invasion became frustrated.

By the way, you know where England and the northern countries got the money to build their empires and finance the industrialization? J J Je..w..s.. there I said it.

[Cristiano viejo]

Look at the Nobel prizes and inventions/achievements. British/German/Swedish/USA are on top with a bit french and Italian.

Nobel Prizes, LULZ, thanks to prove my point. A prize created by Nordics just 100 years ago.
And it is Jewish who are on top.

Spain was 800 yrs under Arab rule

No, mongrel, Spain was not 800 years under Arab rule. That only happened in the south of Andalusia.
You are welcome.

and only had a short flourishing during colonialism 16/17th century until the Armada got crushed by smaller British ships.

hahaha, the Spanish Armada was nothing compared with the English Armada the next year. That war was won by Spain, ignorant.

Where they got the technology is a little irrelevant, fact is that Russia was way ahead of the Med and most of east Asia when it came to the space race

Yet Russians live like Third Worlders, with a single bath for every floor of a building and earning 300 euros per month.
Like the snake you are you avoided to talk about India or North Korea being nuclear powers. According you they are advanced and developed countries

[Oliver109]

Nobel Prizes, LULZ, thanks to prove my point. A prize created by Nordics just 100 years ago.
And it is Jewish who are on top.


No, mongrel, Spain was not 800 years under Arab rule. That only happened in the south of Andalusia.
You are welcome.


hahaha, the Spanish Armada was nothing compared with the English Armada the next year. That war was won by Spain, ignorant.


Yet Russians live like Third Worlders, with a single bath for every floor of a building and earning 300 euros per month.
Like the snake you are you avoided to talk about India or North Korea being nuclear powers. According you they are advanced and developed countries

Lol maybe because Russians are too busy with science/technology to be bathing all the time, 300 euros goes further in Russia than in Spain, also please tell me what is the benefit for the world because Spain earns 3 times more a month than Russia? what is Spain giving the world with that extra money?

[Sebastianus Rex]

Where they got the technology is a little irrelevant, fact is that Russia was way ahead of the Med and most of east Asia when it came to the space race, next you'll be saying that Russia and western Europe got their knowledge of metal technology from the Med way back in the Neolithic.

Space technology>>>>>>>car technology

Airbus is primarily French, American, British, N Euro, what parts of the plane are even produced in Spain? and the vast amount of development was carried out in Toulouse or north of there.

Yes it's important, China is already ahead of most western countries in many technological fields and has a space program and barely a single idea has came out of Chinese research, basically just copy paste adapt.

Just funny to see your embarrassement for not being able to come up with an explanation to why such a nation of geniuses of the space exploration didn't ever were able to achieve anything significant or of quality in other (lower according to you) fields of engineering. In highly competitive markets where consumers demand quality/reliability (such as the automobile, machinery etc) their products suck in comparison...same with chinese who just offer low cost. Now for the space industry there's not really a consumer market (it has been mostly state funded), same with the weapons industry, there's always bloody dictators, warlords who are just thrilled to get their hands on outdated/inferior products.

Airbus is not American at all, stop the nonsense.

In Madrid is mostly produced the military equipment.

[Cristiano viejo]

Lol maybe because Russians are too busy with science/technology to be bathing all the time, 300 euros goes further in Russia than in Spain, also please tell me what is the benefit for the world because Spain earns 3 times more a month than Russia? what is Spain giving the world with that extra money?

And what the fuck is Russia giving to the world with its spacial programme? do people live better thanks Yuri Gagarin?

Listen little mongrel without identity, just with the discovery and colonization of America, the circumnavigation of the world and all what that carries, Spain has contributed more to the world than all the supposed Russian advances in aerospace matter. Every time you eat potatoes and tomato, remember thanks to who

[Oliver109]

And what the fuck is Russia giving to the world with its spacial programme? do people live better thanks Yuri Gagarin?

Listen little mongrel without identity, just with the discovery and colonization of America, the circumnavigation of the world and all what that carries, Spain has contributed more to the world than all the supposed Russian advances in aerospace matter. Every time you eat potatoes and tomato, remember thanks to who

Ha, you never know we may have to move to Mars or one other planet soon and above all it is about the GENIUS that space travel entails, anyone can get a boat and travel the world, even the most lowest form of tribe or whatever can get on a plank of wood and drift off to another continent.