No, southern Europeans have no reason to want to be northern Europeans.

[Centurion]

I would be disappointed if you are not aware that the USSR developed nuclear warfare and their spacial program thanks to espionage, stealing western technology (mostly German and from the USA).

They didn't spied the Iberians, strangely. I'm wondering why. Iberian spaces programs are a joke compared with Russia's ones.

The main reason why Russia is poor is because of communism. If a Marxist revolution had been achieved in Spain (and it could really had happened) it would be as poor as Russia today or even more.

Why do you people dont open threads about MENA looking Americans, British, Germans etc for example?

Because it's so rare that it would be irrelevant. Unlike for MENA looking Southern Euros.

, just with the discovery and colonization of America Spain has contributed more to the world than all the supposed Russian advances in aerospace matter. Every time you eat potatoes and tomato, remember thanks to who

The Vikings knew America several centuries before the Spaniards had even heard about it. They even had a significant influence on Mesoamerican civilizations. Colombus relied heavily on their knowledge for his "discovery" of America. It has been demonstrated by French-Argentinian anthropologist Jacques de Mahieu.

Ha Military It's not just about space either, it's about writers, composers, heck even one of Spain's most famous pieces of classical music was composed by a Russian

Russia is superior to Spain in all these areas, for sure.

you can't be serious...

Why not? There's a lot of clue that it existed. Jurgen Spanuth has developed thoroughly about this in his book about Atlantis:

The Ancient Greeks themselves believed in its existence. The Acropolis has been built by the Acheans, who originated from Indo-European migrations came from the North. Once these kind of Nordic waves of migration dried up, Greece progressively entered in decadence, lost its greatness and became the shithole that it is today.

Just right now for example there is an active thread titled 'Compilation of Spanish blondes', what's the point of those types of thread?

Indeed. They love to show how much Nordic looking the can be, while bashing at Nordic looking people. And when someone start to speak about MENA looking Southern Europeans they get mad.

We all know it's more a matter of West, northern Europe is as relevant as the south, and barely more than the East. It still follows the blue banana of Europe and Charles Murray's human achievements:

Sure, the "Blue Banana" is still the economic heart of Europe. But if we look ar Northern Europeans countries, namely Ireland and Scandinavia, it's clear that they are far more developed than Southern Europeans countries.

[Ruggery]

They you have a problem with southern wogs? If you have it, tell me and we will solve it outside.

[alnortedelsur]

Because it's so rare that it would be irrelevant. Unlike for MENA looking Southern Euros.


Indeed. They love to show how much Nordic looking the can be, while bashing at Nordic looking people. And when someone start to speak about MENA looking Southern Europeans they get mad.

Most southern Euros aren't MENA looking, ignorant.

[Prometheus]

Centurion, "The Ancient Greeks themselves believed in its existence. The Acropolis has been built by the Acheans, who originated from Indo-European migrations came from the North. Once these kind of Nordic waves of migration dried up, Greece progressively entered in decadence, lost its greatness and became the shithole that it is today."

It is rather curious that you say this, considering there is no anthropological basis for "Nords" ever constituting a notable population group in the Greek civilisation. Indo-Europeans were not markedly light in pigmentation, and even when this is considered, most of the Mycenaean Greek samples plot closest to Southern Italy today. Sounds like a cope post based on outdated anthropology, without any sound evidence to support a claim.

[Diego Garcia]

A true northern or nordic or whatever does not need to open this kind of very mediocre threads --in content, expositions, examples, pseudohistorical relates, supposed achievements, fairy tales, understimation. underrating others-- instead of simply being proud of his ancestors, facts, real achievements and their long or short history.

Most things, comments and arguments I've read here are so childish that I've hesitated about if I am in a kindergarten or among true adults.

Only some inferior-complexed individuals --or children-- need of theese kinds of threads to create a bit of self-esteem and to get a certain meaning of their lives.

I'd bet the creators of these kinds of threads are just very sad and uninteresting individuals in their particular lives, as they also allow to figure out here. No other explanation.

[Rædwald]

The fact that you took the time to make a thread about it makes me think otherwise.

[JamesBond007]

The medieval nobility was of germanic origin in Iberia, france and italy i guess this would lead to lighter (nordic) features being seem as something desireble and positivly perceived in those countries.
Hegemony of the usa as the worlds cultural Power spreadind the image of WASPS as the New standart for the west is another reason for this phenomena well shown here in the apricity.

Right, but it could be worse since we WASPs have more phenotypical diversity than Sweden I would think at least as far as pigmentation goes. I don't think the British people are nordic although some are nordid or nordish. British people are to the West Germanics what Iceland is to the north Germanics so it is improper to call British people 'nordic'.

[Creoda]

Some members (mainly Americans with northern ancestry, most Europeans are not idiots at this level) seem to believe that southern Europeans wanted to be from the 'north' or any such nonsense. Whoever was born or lives in Europe knows that it doesn't make any sense. Perhaps this makes sense only in small, irrelevant neo-Nazi circles. In general, Europeans are internationalists or nationalists, but not Nordicites. Each population has its national pride and does not care so much about pigmentation.

Historically speaking, the largest European empires were in the South (both in the ancient age and in the age of discovery.) Greeks and Romans brought alphabet, philosophy, infrastructure, mathematics and art to the rest of Europe. Part of the development of the Greeks and Romans is due to the contact with other Mediterranean peoples like Phoenicians, Egyptians and others. Some members act as if having ancestry in the Middle East / North Africa is a demerit, but in fact the peoples of the Middle East and North Africa contributed a lot to civilization in the age of the empires.

Even in a strictly military sense: the Celts were defeated by the Romans and the Germans in every corner of Europe. However, it is full of people with Celtic ancestry, believing that some Mediterranean people are jealous of them. Lol

The largest Empire in history was the British Empire, and the second largest European Empire was that of the Russians, while the French and Germans have largely dominated continental Europe since the Middle Ages.

This is just another thread for Southerners like you (are you really French?) to yap endlessly at Nordics/Northerners, who generally aren't interested or even present, contrary to the false picture you paint.

[Mantuano]

They have no reason to, but here are some notorious complexed southern europeans that try hard to differentiate them with the rest of South Europe, posting atypical northern european looking individuals from their countries. This is a sad but true reality in this forum.

[Luso]

I dont think they want to be northern european, they just want to be european, but they are judged by the northern european standard, and considered less european, then they fight back.

you are right