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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhulta View Post
    here i can see more indo mestizos, but in lot of others i could only see a handful. Everyone can be a fan, but it does cost money to visit a game no? especially such big ones like an world championship. I doubt a poor individual who represent the majority of the population can afford this. Your living in a developing country, visiting a national soccer game is a privilege. do you say there is no discrimination against indo mestizos or amerindians?
    there are different prices, tickets vary from 69 to 150 soles (s /)
    nothing that a middle class Peruvian cannot comfortably afford, and even a D or E segment Peruvian could afford. the minimum salary is 930 s / (soles).

    https://rpp.pe/futbol/seleccion-peru...espectivamente.


    Peru only has 20% poverty.
    55% of the population is middle class according to the INEI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhulta View Post
    because they can actually afford to go to such events, most indigenous or indo mestizos would probably live in extreme poverty and face severe discrimination.
    Alright the map might be false, but still around 70-80% amerindian, that should be visible in their pheno, yet only a few of people in these pics look amerindian or indo mestizo.
    Sorry but, to an extent, this is bullshit, Peru is a developing nation yes but we are not doing that bad (in comparison to several other countries in the region), at least 80% of us are amerindians and indomestizos but between 40-50% of people in the country are middle class, so there you go.

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    But what tickets? ones for the world championship? it also wasnt exactly on their doorstep, they would have to travel, most likely plane to i assume Brazil?

    these crowds look more indo mestizo or even mostly amerindian
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr..._Rgdwcjn7oyZSg



    Most likely the poor ones who had to stay at home and not be able to travel to a different location, i just think its obvious that these crowds look different, they more resemble the local soccer fans you also posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amador View Post
    Sorry but, to an extent, this is bullshit, Peru is a developing nation yes but we are not doing that bad (in comparison to several other countries in the region), at least 80% of us are amerindians and indomestizos but between 40-50% of people in the country are middle class, so there you go.
    80% seems exaggerated to me, according to my experience at least 40-45% are indomestizos and Amerindians


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhulta View Post
    But what tickets? ones for the world championship? it also wasnt exactly on their doorstep, they would have to travel, most likely plane to i assume Brazil?

    these crowds look more indo mestizo or even mostly amerindian
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr..._Rgdwcjn7oyZSg



    Most likely the poor ones who had to stay at home and be able to travel to a different location, i just think its obvious that these crowds look different, they more resemble the local soccer fans you also posted.
    but those tickets that I told you are from the same national stadium. travel where?

    Peru is an indomestizo and mestizo country on average, no one denies it, however it is a racially segmented country.

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    I mean that they only richer ones would visit games in which peru would play on foreign soil like in the world cup, brazil, russia etc

    in the end i cannot say for certain, i only post my oopinions based on what i saw in documentaries, facebook etc. There i saw that most people especially in the smaller cities/rural areas are very amerindian looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhulta View Post
    I mean that they only richer ones would visit games in which peru would play on foreign soil like in the world cup, brazil, russia etc

    in the end i cannot say for certain, i only post my oopinions based on what i saw in documentaries, facebook etc. There i saw that most people especially in the smaller cities/rural areas are very amerindian looking.
    but the photos that I put are mostly in the national stadium of peru. LOL.
    In addition, a middle-class Peruvian earns between 3678-31,522 per year, it seems to me enough to take a vacation abroad, especially the socioeconomic segments A, B and C

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    these are street fans.

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    A little bit more euro than I would have thought, usually in my mind Peruvians are around indo mestizo or mestizo range in phenotype, and since Peru and Bolivia are the most Amerindian countries in south america I think it would be understanble to assume so, but its not surprising theres a little bit of everything just like in any country, but theres more euro mestizos in these pics than what I would have expected.

    Either way to state that theres a lack of indo mestizos and amerindians in these pics for the sole fact of assuming they are poor just bcs they are amerindian, indomestizo, or mestizos is pretty dumb, since anyone can be rich or poor and assuming ones economics situation just bcs of their phenotype is really messed up, football game tickets are not expensive either.
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    I think Peru is around 63% Amerindian on average.
    Peru has areas where they are very indigenous and others where you can see that there were mixtures.
    Like México, in the north of Perú were more mixtures and has more whites than the south of the country, but Perú is less euro than México, idk how much, but these countrys aren't very diferents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amador View Post
    Sorry but, to an extent, this is bullshit, Peru is a developing nation yes but we are not doing that bad (in comparison to several other countries in the region), at least 80% of us are amerindians and indomestizos but between 40-50% of people in the country are middle class, so there you go.
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