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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf View Post
    The ones with real continuity are the Samaritans. Muslim Palestinians have little continuity with ancient Judeans, they are as distant as the Scottish are to Croats or the French Swiss.

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    I see Christian Palestinians from Beit Sahour are the third nearest. As for Muslim Palestinians they sure are closer than Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews (and not much different from Kurdish and Iraqi Jews). So guess who wins the continuity game?

    Anyway, I didn't deny they mixed with foreign groups but so did these other Jewish groups (except Samaritans, apparently).

    Samples selected are from Israel_2250-900_BC_(N=36). What other time periods can we look at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Yeah but you're wrong too. If you want to read about snipers actually killing children for the lulz read about Shalhevet Pass.
    "Actually killing children..."

    Do you honestly want to play tit for tat on which side has killed more children? I'd leave you in the dust. Unfortunately, no one in mainstream media cares enough to name dead Palestinian children except in extreme cases, such as when Israeli settlers burned a family alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    "Actually killing children..."

    Do you honestly want to play tit for tat on which side has killed more children? I'd leave you in the dust. Unfortunately, no one in mainstream media cares enough to name dead Palestinian children except in extreme cases, such as when Israeli settlers burned a family alive.
    That's what we call collateral, you wave it away in Ukraine. Shalhevet Pass was killed deliberately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    That's what we call collateral, you wave it away in Ukraine. Shalhevet Pass was killed deliberately.
    Does IDF targeting children and reporters collateral, also? It reveals an attitude of "I don't give a fuck."

    I don't wave it away in Ukraine. I know they give a fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Does IDF targeting children and reporters collateral, also? It reveals an attitude of "I don't give a fuck."

    I don't wave it away in Ukraine. I know they give a fuck.
    Yeah, OK, shill. Russia is super loving and Israel 'targets children.' No point continuing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Yeah, OK, shill. Russia is super loving and Israel 'targets children.' No point continuing.
    It's not that they're 'super loving' but rather they see Ukrainians as being like themselves. They wouldn't be super loving to Finns.

    Are you denying IDF snipers have targeted children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    It's not that they're 'super loving' but rather they see Ukrainians as like themselves. They wouldn't be super loving to Finns.
    This and other bedtime stories about how people don't commit war crimes just 'cause it's a related ethnicity, as we all know the Ukrainians never ethnically cleansed the Poles either and the Soviets certainly didn't shoot all those people at Katyn. All those videos and news articles are fake for whatever reason you have. I simply don't respect your opinion on this and don't care to have the discussion.

    Are you denying IDF snipers have targeted children?
    As a phenomenon, yes, I'm sure you can find some story about some sick guy who has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    This and other bedtime stories about how people don't commit war crimes just 'cause it's a related ethnicity, as we all know the Ukrainians never ethnically cleansed the Poles either and the Soviets certainly didn't shoot all those people at Katyn.
    I never said war crimes weren't committed. There are always war crimes on every side.

    All those videos and news articles are fake for whatever reason you have.
    Do you mean Bucha? When all the evidence leads to Ukrainian soldiers killing 'collaborators' (or in other words people who had Russian food rations)?

    I simply don't respect your opinion on this and don't care to have the discusson.
    Then stop responding to me but you have no self-control (I need to 'win'). Is that argument with that Aldaris or whatever his name is still ongoing?

    As a phenomenon, yes, I'm sure you can find some story about some sick guy who has.
    And no one is ever brought up on charges because the IDF don't give a fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I never said war crimes weren't committed. There are always war crimes on every side.



    Do you mean Bucha? When all the evidence leads to Ukrainian soldiers killing 'collaborators' (or in other words people who had Russian food rations)?
    Akshually I had several other much more recent incidents in mind, but it's sort of hard to kill collaborators when you're not even there. Satellite imagery shows the bodies before the Russkies leave town.

    Then stop responding to me but you have no self-control (I need to 'win'). Is that argument with that Aldaris or whatever his name is still ongoing?
    This is true, but I find your opinion on this topic basically you entrenching yourself behind your contrarian take. Nothing more. It has no connection to reality and it's begun to take on denialism to sustain itself. At least on Feb 24 you could say 'Russia will win swift, don't worry [poster], this is all justified' but now it's sad.

    And no one is ever brought up on charges because the IDF don't give a fuck.
    Not accurate, you could have googled. For example:

    https://www.haaretz.com/1.5144899
    https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...-battle-606845
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-so...der-into-gaza/

    Obviously the majority of criminals get away with it but I think this is true for every single army ever. But the IDF does jail its soldiers, albeit in small numbers - like the US, UK, Russia, etc.
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    Palestine never really even existed. End of story.

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