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    Time for another Intifada

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    Quote Originally Posted by raitj91 View Post
    How many jews should die for you to feel its comfortably proportionate? Asking for 6.5 million friends.
    I'm simply stating a fact. Far more Palestinian children are killed than Israeli children.

    According to B'tselem's calculations (2021), some 2,171 Palestinian children have been killed in the last two decades by Israeli military actions, and 139 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinian militants.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childr...an%20militants.
    If you want to play that 'game,' you lose.

    PS - did the members of the family of the murderer, or the murderer itself, get stipend from the Israeli government the way Palestinians get murder stipends for killing Israeli civillians, inside and outside the west bank?
    Oy vey. The kveching is strong with this one.

    Why get a stipend when you get to take other people's property?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raitj91 View Post
    It is a religious conflict. That is how is started in 1920, fears that jews would have religious freedom to pray at their most holiest sacred site that was, you know, destroyed by the romans and then built on top of by muslims but screw history right?
    You didn't address the facts I posted. Do the Saudis, for example, work with Israel, or not? Are you aware Zionism is a secular movement?

    Out of curiosity: how far do your roots go in Israel, "Semitic Viking"? Did your grandpa kill British and Palestinians for the cause?
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    I think this video is great for addressing Ben Shapiro's Zionism. The creator is a genius. I know him personally. We hang out. We wrestle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raitj91 View Post
    Parents using their children as human shields, bringing them in the middle of riot battles where they are throwing pipe bombs at soldiers across the gaza border, and not evacuating their families from buildings used near launching stations per warning heeded by Israel, etc.
    I'm aware of Zionists propaganda. I don't need to hear it ad nauseum. Desperate people behave desperately. The irony is Israel was founded by Zionist terrorists killing Brits and Palestinians (and even sometimes their own people) and the only desperate thing about them was their fear they won't be able to steal enough land.

    Staying on the theme of terrorism: guess who helped create Hamas? Your government.

    How Israel helped create Hamas
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-create-hamas/

    Now you kvetch over what your government helped create.
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    Zionism is BASED

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    As for Muslim Palestinians they sure are closer than Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews (and not much different from Kurdish and Iraqi Jews). So guess who wins the continuity game?
    By the way yes, Muslim Palestinians are more akin to these ancient Levantine groups due to a profile that is generally Middle Eastern. However, the average Muslim Palestinian may or may not have more ancestry from ancient Judea than the average Ashkenazi Jew. Just as Ashkenazi Jews have absorbed Southern European (Italian and Greek), North African and partly even Central-Eastern European peoples, Muslim Palestinians have also absorbed some South Europeans, real Arabs and other Muslim Arabs such as Egyptians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I'm simply stating a fact. Far more Palestinian children are killed than Israeli children.



    If you want to play that 'game,' you lose.



    Oy vey. The kveching is strong with this one.

    Why get a stipend when you get to take other people's property?
    Many of those children are used as human shields by Hamas and Hezbollah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    Israel must at least respect the 1967 borders and let Palestinians live in peace, not under embargo; and give back their colonial expansions
    Israel is already a small state, it is hard to give any land to Palestinians, and even if it did, Palestinians would want more and more until they got all of it.

    Palestinians have very high birth rates and are going to displace the Jews anyway.

    It is best for Israel to make them Israeli citizens instead of giving them land. Already 1/3 of Israelis are of Palestinian origin anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    Israel is already a small state, it is hard to give any land to Palestinians, and even if it did, Palestinians would want more and more until they got all of it.

    Palestinians have very high birth rates and are going to displace the Jews anyway.

    It is best for Israel to make them Israeli citizens instead of giving them land. Already 1/3 of Israelis are of Palestinian origin anyway.
    The Israeli birth rate is now higher than the Palestinian one.

    Around 20% of Israelis are Palestinian but if you add the non-citizens in the West Bank and Gaza it's almost 50%.
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