Palestine vs Israel: Choose a side

[JamesBond007]

Only a small minority of Israelites have Royal Dragon genes through the house of David.

Israel is the only 'Western' country to legally sanction torture, and the Israeli Defense Forces use bone-breaking and shoot-to-maim policies against Palestinians, and even reporters. Furthermore, Israel forbids marriages of Jews to non-Jews, just like nazi Germany (Jews who marry gentiles have to get married in Cyprus).

[Unknown European]

just like nazi Germany

Just like most of history. Do you think my great-great-great-grandfather as a Jew in early 1800s Germany would be allowed to marry a gentile? Do you think a gentile would have been able to marry a Jew? forbidding interfaith marriage is not radical and the Nazis would have thought of it as forbidding interracial marriage as opposed to interfaith marriage. Most of the Israeli people support avoiding interfaith marriage and I would expect that view is in common with Jewish Israelis, Muslim Israelis, and Christian Israelis

[JamesBond007]

It can be argued civilization is the worst thing that ever happened to man kind, before it there was no world wars or mass plagues (and I mean real ones, not overblown flu like covid), there was no companies and governments taking advantage of their people, no mass surveillance.
People before civilization had plenty of problems to, but they seemed to not have been as overarchingly bad or destructive

It can be argued that the bourgeoisie is incompetent to rule society unlike true royalty. A true Royal Pendragon has transcendental perception and unity with the God-head of the universe. Only Dragons can initiate this derkesthai process through Royal vampirism as only dragons have the necessary brain receptor sites to be filled from chemicals in the redheaded virgin grail maidens' blood.

[Incal]

Civilization.

You mean religion?

[XenophobicPrussian]

It can be argued civilization is the worst thing that ever happened to man kind, before it there was no world wars or mass plagues (and I mean real ones, not overblown flu like covid), there was no companies and governments taking advantage of their people, no mass surveillance.
People before civilization had plenty of problems to, but they seemed to not have been as overarchingly bad or destructive

Kumbaya liberal(usually to defend savage Native Americans and Africans) and/or LARPer traditionalist garbage. All tribes(including Europeans) were more violent before civilization, shown both in archaeological studies of ancient cultures(some were more violent than others). Violence goes down as civilization progresses, with violence peaking during hunter gathering. There's some debate or not whether visuospatial intelligence actually increased, but intelligence is irrelevant if you aren't using it for more than surviving like paleolithic humans did.

Humans live far longer than before, are taller, are oppressed by other humans less than ever before despite your weird rant about governments(and again, based on violence rates, you could say most likely less violent oppression), people have far more choice and ability to do what they want to do without anyone else telling them otherwise, wars are less frequent than ever(world wars irrelevant, no difference in fighting half the world vs fighting your neighbouring tribe, weird point). Wars themselves have gotten a lot less bloody per capita and more humane. The idea of "surrender" probably existed in hunter gatherer societies but not to the extent that it does now.

The only thing you're right about is plagues, and hunter gatherers didn't have disgusting modern teeth because of grain, sugar and higher carb diets. They also didn't have many of the diseases we have today, or had them far less often, like cancer(again, you can blame desert people and crops for this), but this is really irrelevant if they're just going to eventually die of violent conflict, weather conditions or starvation. There are ancient archeological cultures in places like Papau New Guinea, Africa, the Americas, etc that have had estimated causes of death via violence at 50%, and there are more recently studied tribes in the early 1900s that had similar rates, namely the Waorani in the Amazon, and these numbers are much more solid than the ancient cultures numbers.

To compare, the same studies found the violent death rate of US and Europe from 1900-1960 to be 1%, this includes war deaths, and 0.4% in 2007 for the whole world. They also compared !Kung Bushmen murders per 100k before and after state authority was established, and they get cut by over 1/4th in a short period of time.

I don't mean to offend you because your posts are usually decent but I gotta say it, some of the posters and/or posts on this forum.

[Unknown European]

It can be argued civilization is the worst thing that ever happened to man kind, before it there was no world wars or mass plagues (and I mean real ones, not overblown flu like covid), there was no companies and governments taking advantage of their people, no mass surveillance.
People before civilization had plenty of problems to, but they seemed to not have been as overarchingly bad or destructive

Anarcho-primitivism?

[Centurion]

Maybe but based on my experience they often push the idea that they have nothing to do in europe and must stay in Israel and in general they have the "let them kill each other" mentality I've rarely seen white supremacists defending arabs/palestine but like I said It's strictly based on my experience.

You are fluent in French right? Then I suggest you to watch this short video. It represent the typical point of view of a far-right White about this issue, and it's quite similar with what you think: https://www.bitchute.com/video/i0Qy1aF6ScFE/

Basically, all the Jews should be expelled to Israel. But they should not receive any help from Occidentals and Christians people. Jews are not a people of farmer or of fighter, but mostly a people of speculator and of parasite. If they had not been supported by Occident and Christianity they could never have resisted to their Muslim belligerents. It would had been just a matter of years, or even of months, before they had been crushed and submitted by them.

Now, according to you, the situation of the Jews in muslim countries was fair and enviable, and they had nothing to complain about. Fair enough. If they are finally put under some muslim yoke and feel good with this, I'm ok with that. Or perhaps they would not feel as good. But I'm ok with that too, it's not my business.

[Rafael Passoni]

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem:
“May those who love you be secure. (Psalm 122:6)

[Hektor12]

As for any Arab or MENA-muslim ask for Turkish approach on this clashes;

The flag of the Arab Revolt, also known as the flag of Hejaz, was a flag used by the Arab nationalists during the Arab Revolt against the Ottoman Empire during World War I

So; you wanted this, you got this. You kicked Turks out of the place (thanks for that) and were not interested in you or your issues anymore. Dont trust Erdogan's delusional statements, they have no base outside of a marginal islamist core which is funded by himself.

If you need help, you can call T. E. Lawrance; your national hero, your commander against Turks and designer of your flag. Turks have no business with you.

[Teutone]

As for any Arab or MENA-muslim ask for Turkish approach on this clashes;







So; you wanted this, you got this. You kicked Turks out of the place (thanks for that) and were not interested in you or your issues anymore. Dont trust Erdogan's delusional statements, they have no base outside of a marginal islamist core which is funded by himself.

If you need help, you can call T. E. Lawrance; your national hero, your commander against Turks and designer of your flag. Turks have no business with you.

Im more than confident the vast majority of Turks support Falastin.

Stop presenting your OWD liberal view as representative.
That would be as silly as me claiming the majority of Germans share my views.