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    heeu !? Are you kidding ?
    Having lived in this region for 2 years , I can tell you that Alsace is one of the most nationalistic regions in France , and the old people here have very strong anti-german sentiment ( Because of the past apparently ) .
    But I agree that the some parts of the two regions ( especially alsace ) seems german , 90% of the city names sounds german and the architecture is strongely german influenced ( even the panels are writen in french and german ) , but culturally the people living here are more french than german that's for sure ( when you cross the borders it's a totally diffrent mindset and people ... )

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    http://mondediplo.com/1998/05/07bihr
    BREEDING GROUND OF THE FAR RIGHT
    Alsace, exception to the rule

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    " ...The few years of National Socialist rule achieved, what France had never achieved from 1919 to 1940: The Alsatians turned now unconditionally to France, and German culture and language in Alsace were permanently on the defensive...."

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malgr%C3%A9-nous

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malgr%C3%A9-nous

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    My uncle's paternal side traces back to the Alsace a good few generations, but says his ancestors considered themselves Frenchman even before the area was annexed by france. Strange.

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    It's one of those lands that Germany lost after WW1.


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    Strasbourg became French in 1681 for the first time.
    http://www.zum.de/whkmla/military/17...sburg1681.html
    When it became German again in 1871, enough time had elapsed for them to assimilate to France.
    Although in the core I think mentalitywise they are close to their Alemannic neighbours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChairmanoftheBored View Post
    My uncle's paternal side traces back to the Alsace a good few generations, but says his ancestors considered themselves Frenchman even before the area was annexed by france. Strange.
    Somewhat weird, I know, but that's the way it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skomand View Post
    Although in the core I think mentalitywise they are close to their Alemannic neighbours.
    Exactly! They glorify their Frenchness mit schwäbischen Gründlichkeit but don't tell them that way, it would make them angry. Very weird...

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uGzNl57RcU

    Arsene Wenger, the Arsenal coach, is from Alsace. In this interview he speaks High German.


    Tomi Ungerer, the most popular Alsatian alive.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryNgfk49cjk
    Last edited by Skomand; 05-20-2014 at 03:55 PM.

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