Aboriginal Australian average?

[Leto]

What would the Australian Aboriginal average look like based on self-reported ancestry. They seem to be incredibly mixed race at this point

Another factor might be the children of mixed marriages: the proportion of Aboriginal adults married (de facto or de jure) to non-Aboriginal spouses increased to 78.2% in the 2016 census,[215] (up from 74% in 2011,[216] 64% in 1996, 51% in 1991 and 46% in 1986); it was reported in 2002 that up to 88% of the offspring of mixed marriages subsequently self-identify as Indigenous Australians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indige...s#Demographics

[Creoda]

What would the Australian Aboriginal average look like based on self-reported ancestry. They seem to be incredibly mixed race at this point

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indige...s#Demographics

Just average the Abo and Anglo-Celtic Australian averages, and weight it towards Abo's so it's like 60/40, and you wouldn't be far off.

[Leto]

Just average the Abo and Anglo-Celtic Australian averages, and weight it towards Abo's so it's like 60/40 or 70/30, and you wouldn't be far off.

You think they're about one third British? I'm sure there are plenty of even more white-washed individuals identifying as Aboriginal. Like 70% white and 30% Abo.

[Creoda]

You think they're about one third British? I'm sure there are plenty of even more white-washed individuals identifying as Aboriginal. Like 70% white and 30% Abo.

I don't know. I've never studied their modern demography. But like you said the majority of 'them' (those who identify) are mixed now, some majority white (can you really call them Abo? I guess we do), some majority black, some half and half, and some full or near full Abo. There is not really a stable mixture, just a bunch of people with varying degrees of Abo blood who identify as it, and some with minor Abo blood who do so officially only for benefits, while not socially identifying as Abo.

[Leto]

I don't know. I've never studied their modern demography. But like you said the majority of 'them' (those who identify) are mixed now, some majority white (can you really call them Abo? I guess we do), some majority black, some half and half, and some full or near full Abo. There is not really a stable mixture, just a bunch of people with varying degrees of Abo blood who identify as it, and some with minor Abo blood who do so officially only for benefits, while not socially identifying as Abo.

I see. I think most people are unaware of how mongrelized they are now. People would google Aboriginal and see those pictures of pure tribal archaic-looking humans and think that's the average Abo look of 2021.

[Creoda]

I see. I think most people are unaware of how mongrelized they are now. People would google Aboriginal and see those pictures of pure tribal archaic-looking humans and think that's the average Abo look of 2021.

Different areas have different levels of admixture. In most of Victoria where I live they are very mixed, and full-blooded ones are extremely rare; only really Gippsland has a noticeable amount of them. Full-blooded Tasmanian Abo's are extinct. In urban areas they tend to be a lot more mixed. It's mainly in Northern and Central Australia, especially in remote areas that they're still mostly full-blooded, but those are massively outnumbered now by the urbanised mongrels. It's more a case of the Abo identity being hijacked by the mongrels, whether you want to consider them real Abo's is up to you.

[Creoda]

Typical modern 'Indigenous Australian', from Queensland, over half white.

Kit KW6164022

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Oceanian 32.04
2 North_Atlantic 25.55
3 Baltic 14.64
4 South_Asian 9.68
5 West_Med 6.87
6 East_Asian 3.54
7 Red_Sea 2.85
8 Siberian 1.95
9 Sub-Saharan 1.77
10 East_Med 1.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 45.75
2 Serbian 46.11
3 La_Brana-1 46.12
4 Moldavian 46.2
5 Hungarian 46.27
6 Austrian 46.38
7 French 46.46
8 South_Dutch 46.71
9 East_German 46.74
10 Romanian 46.9
11 Croatian 47.08
12 Portuguese 47.16
13 North_German 47.45
14 Bulgarian 47.59
15 Spanish_Galicia 47.61
16 Southeast_English 47.82
17 Spanish_Cataluna 47.98
18 North_Swedish 48.01
19 Swedish 48.1
20 Ukrainian_Lviv 48.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.4% Danish + 45.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.75
2 54.8% North_German + 45.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.84
3 54.3% Orcadian + 45.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.91
4 54.4% North_Dutch + 45.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.98
5 54.6% Southeast_English + 45.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.99
6 54.4% Swedish + 45.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.13
7 54% West_Scottish + 46% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.13
8 54.1% Irish + 45.9% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.15
9 54.3% Southwest_English + 45.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.2
10 53.8% Norwegian + 46.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.26
11 55.2% South_Dutch + 44.8% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.31
12 64.8% South_Dutch + 35.2% Papuan @ 10.49
13 55.8% West_German + 44.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.6
14 65.3% West_German + 34.7% Papuan @ 10.76
15 64.4% North_German + 35.6% Papuan @ 10.79
16 64.1% Danish + 35.9% Papuan @ 11.01
17 54.5% North_Swedish + 45.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 11.03
18 55.2% East_German + 44.8% NAN_Melanesian @ 11.12
19 64.8% East_German + 35.2% Papuan @ 11.27
20 55.4% Austrian + 44.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 11.37

[Leto]

Typical modern 'Indigenous Australian', from Queensland, over half white.

Haha. Some other calculators

Dodecad World9

Population
Amerindian 0.2 Pct
East_Asian 2.88 Pct
African 1.04 Pct
Atlantic_Baltic 39.44 Pct
Australasian 33 Pct
Siberian 2.48 Pct
Caucasus_Gedrosia 6.24 Pct
Southern 7.16 Pct
South_Asian 7.57 Pct

MDLP K23b

Population
Amerindian -
Ancestral_Altaic 0.54 Pct
South_Central_Asian 2.81 Pct
Arctic 1.06 Pct
South_Indian 4.94 Pct
Australoid 25.01 Pct
Austronesian -
Caucasian 8.26 Pct
Archaic_Human 0.39 Pct
East_African -
East_Siberian 0.21 Pct
European_Early_Farmers 16.6 Pct
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 19.35 Pct
Archaic_African 0.39 Pct
Near_East 0.45 Pct
North_African -
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian 0.61 Pct
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers 19.38 Pct

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.2% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 28.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 3.59
2 70.8% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 29.2% Welsh ( ) @ 3.66
3 70.5% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 29.5% CEU ( ) @ 3.67
4 72.4% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 27.6% French ( ) @ 3.7
5 70.3% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 29.7% North_European ( ) @ 3.72
6 71.1% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 28.9% English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) @ 3.72
7 70.8% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 29.2% British ( ) @ 3.74
8 69.6% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 30.4% Norwegian_West ( ) @ 3.89
9 71% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 29% English ( ) @ 3.9
10 71.2% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 28.8% Irish ( ) @ 3.96

I wonder what he/she looks like.

[Lucas]

Different areas have different levels of admixture. In most of Victoria where I live they are very mixed, and full-blooded ones are extremely rare; only really Gippsland has a noticeable amount of them. Full-blooded Tasmanian Abo's are extinct. In urban areas they tend to be a lot more mixed. It's mainly in Northern and Central Australia, especially in remote areas that they're still mostly full-blooded, but those are massively outnumbered now by the urbanised mongrels. It's more a case of the Abo identity being hijacked by the mongrels, whether you want to consider them real Abo's is up to you.

If there is the same trend in Australia like in US to glorify his tiny Abo percentages (distant great-great grandfather for example)?

It is true Abo quadroons are practically white phenotypically and can have light pigmentation comparing to SSA - Euro mixes?

[Creoda]

If there is the same trend in Australia like in US to glorify his tiny Abo percentages (distant great-great grandfather for example)?

Not so much. There is traditionally very little romanticism around Aborigines compared to the romanticism around Amerindians the US, however in recent years they have been glorified the Media, and that is perhaps becoming more of a thing now.

Moreover people here won't make up Abo ancestry like they do for Indian ancestry in the US.

It is true Abo quadroons are practically white phenotypically and can have light pigmentation comparing to SSA - Euro mixes?

I think that might be a stretch. Maybe they look more White than SSA mixes but they still look odd. 1/8 can perhaps look practically white, with some odd features.