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    Quote Originally Posted by Katarzyna View Post
    Target: Katarzyna_scaled
    Distance: 6.4866% / 0.06486644
    38.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    36.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    26.0 Baltic_LVA_HG

    Wow I am far below the average on Yamnaya. Looks like I have to move to Romania soon to keep up with it
    But you don't have Asians like me. They annoy me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    But you don't have Asians like me. They annoy me
    No but therefore I am apparently related to the brown kinds of Europeans hahaha. Wanna trade ?

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    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.6642% / 0.03664230
    38.2 TUR_Barcin_N
    27.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    11.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    7.2 WHG
    6.2 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
    5.8 MAR_Taforalt
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    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.7380% / 0.03738044 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    36.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    24.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    14.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    9.2 Baltic_LVA_HG
    6.0 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katarzyna View Post
    No but therefore I am apparently related to the brown kinds of Europeans hahaha. Wanna trade ?
    Ahaha, Thank You. You have good results...But I am what I am, a Russian, not a Pole

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    The results of my ex-wife. That's probably why we broke up with her...there is no divisive Asia...
    Target: ugo_wife_scaled
    Distance: 6.4964% / 0.06496358
    44.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    30.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    24.8 Baltic_LVA_HG
    0.4 Han

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katarzyna View Post
    Target: Katarzyna_scaled
    Distance: 6.4866% / 0.06486644
    38.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    36.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    26.0 Baltic_LVA_HG

    Wow I am far below the average on Yamnaya. Looks like I have to move to Romania soon to keep up with it
    Do you have new results?

    Target: Katarzyna_scaled
    Distance: 6.2265% / 0.06226500
    42.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    34.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    23.8 Baltic_LVA_HG


    Target: cass
    Distance: 4.7507% / 0.04750676
    41.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    36.8 TUR_Barcin_N
    21.8 Baltic_LVA_HG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katarzyna View Post
    Target: Katarzyna_scaled
    Distance: 6.4866% / 0.06486644
    38.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    36.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    26.0 Baltic_LVA_HG

    Wow I am far below the average on Yamnaya. Looks like I have to move to Romania soon to keep up with it

    it's because you get a lot of Baltic hunter-gatherer, which we don't - you're 1/4 Baltic HG, I'm only 1/8 for example, according to this run, however you get total 36% Neolithic while I get 45%, so the results seem pretty much in line with geographic expectations in the end. also, Romania is just next to Ukraine, actually a lot of northeast Romanians are rather recently Romanianized Ruthenians (gradually more Balkan as you go South and less as you go North), which explains Yamnaya scores - Romania was the first place out of the Pontic steppe that Yamnaya expanded to (actually Eastern side of Romania is part of the Pontic -steppe and -steppe-forest region)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    it's because you get a lot of Baltic hunter-gatherer, which we don't - you're 1/4 Baltic HG, I'm only 1/8 for example, according to this run, however you get total 36% Neolithic while I get 45%, so the results seem pretty much in line with geographic expectations in the end. also, Romania is just next to Ukraine, actually a lot of northeast Romanians are rather recently Romanianized Ruthenians (gradually more Balkan as you go South and less as you go North), which explains Yamnaya scores - Romania was the first place out of the Pontic steppe that Yamnaya expanded to (actually Eastern side of Romania is part of the Pontic -steppe and -steppe-forest region)
    Nope north east Romanians are not just romanized Ruthenians we are balkan population close to Bosnians , Croats,and serbs not Ruthenians

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    Target: Decius_scaled
    Distance: 5.2792% / 0.05279238
    39.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    33.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    17.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    9.0 Baltic_LVA_HG

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioas12 View Post
    Nope north east Romanians are not just romanized Ruthenians we are balkan population close to Bosnians , Croats,and serbs not Ruthenians
    you are confusing similarity with real descent: the resulting mix is similar to ex-Yugoslavs in terms of Slavic/Balkan ratio, however the origin is different, as the Slavic in Moldovans is directly East Slavic, moreso than in other Romanians that came back from the Balkans with some assimilated Slavic DNA already.

    also, I don't know how much you know about the region, but Ukrainian last names are abundant in Suceava, Botosani and Iasi counties among already Romanianized Moldovans, which points to recent Ruthenian origin, while checking census data from 1890-to-1910 a lot of villages that used to be fully Ruthenian at the census are now fully Romanian in the same counties. other than that, Suceava county also has a lot of villages still speaking Ukrainian, i.e. ethnically preserved to this day. but there was a long process of Ruthenian-Vlach mix in Moldova region, which is not yet completed (it will be completed after complete assimilation of remaining Ukrainian speakers and with the complete assimilation of Moldovan-speaking Moldovans into Romanian-speaking Romanians, i.e. the local Moldovan dialect is slowly dying out as well). then as you go south from Suceava-Botosani-Iasi the Slavic origin can only be guessed, as it's not showing up in surnames anymore, but only in place/river/brook names and it's more diluted, more mixed with Vlach or other stuff that then got Vlachized/Romanianized

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