(Turkish) Question/Results Ancestry/Gedmatch could someone help : )?

**mrt19** · 05-15-2021, 03:47 PM

Ive Gedmatched my Turkish results could someone explain me if im "Turkish" and what does approximate mean? i dont have any Greek/Cypriot or Armenian DNA in my Test but it was shown in the approximate
Thx Beforehand : )

My father is from Ordu (Black sea) Turkey
My Mother is from Sakarya Turkey

Ancestry DNA :
Turkey Caucausus : 94%
Iran/Persian : 3 %
Balkan : 2%
Mongolia and North Central Asia : 1%

Gedmatch:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish_Dodecad @ 6.017474
2 Turks_Behar @ 6.715547
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 15.062993
4 Lebanese_Behar @ 16.641054
5 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 17.199896
6 Cypriots_Behar @ 17.620663
7 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 17.761585
8 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 18.036146
9 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 18.166418
10 Kurd_Dodecad @ 18.615164
11 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 18.623093
12 Armenian_Dodecad @ 18.625534
13 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 18.819458
14 Iranian_Dodecad @ 18.839224
15 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 18.902637
16 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 19.281527
17 Druze_HGDP @ 19.475328
18 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 19.503201
19 Syrians_Behar @ 20.240303
20 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 20.320736

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots_Behar +50% Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 5.822718

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Dodecad +25% Greek_Dodecad +25% Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.761647

Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Armenian_Dodecad + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.726953
2 Armenians_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.731379
3 Armenians_Behar + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.738971
4 Armenian_Dodecad + Armenian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.761647
5 Cypriots_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 1.909411
6 Armenian_Dodecad + Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.909481
7 Armenian_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.949450
8 Armenians_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.978594
9 Armenians_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.992011
10 Armenians_Behar + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.023853
11 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.025895
12 Armenian_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.092598
13 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Assyrian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.134113
14 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.219139
15 Nogais_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.233742
16 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.285007
17 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.319701
18 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.400074
19 Nogais_Yunusbayev + Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.462005
20 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.469601

**reboun** · 05-15-2021, 03:54 PM

Welcome to the forum. 1 population approximation shows your genetic distance to the ethnicities which you are closest to. For 2-3-4 populations approximation, your DNA is modelled as a mixture but it doesn't necessarily mean that you are part Greek, Jewish, or Armenian. These are just approximations and you may think them as ethnicity guess based on DNA.

**Leto** · 05-15-2021, 04:24 PM

Hi,
Post your components from Dodecad and Eurogenes too. That standard oracle is basically useless.

**mrt19** · 05-15-2021, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Hi,
Post your components from Dodecad and Eurogenes too. That standard oracle is basically useless.

Eurogenes k13:

North_Atlantic 5.05 Pct
Baltic 7.05 Pct
West_Med 14.49 Pct
West_Asian 30.66 Pct
East_Med 24.73 Pct
Red_Sea 5.81 Pct
South_Asian 2.32 Pct
East_Asian 4.02 Pct
Siberian 5.71 Pct
Amerindian 0.16 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Dodecad k12b:

Gedrosia 13.26 Pct
Siberian 4.11 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.69 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.83 Pct
North_European 10.89 Pct
South_Asian 0.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.36 Pct
East_Asian 5.14 Pct
Caucasus 41.21 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

**Thracian** · 05-15-2021, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by mrt19

Eurogenes k13:

North_Atlantic 5.05 Pct
Baltic 7.05 Pct
West_Med 14.49 Pct
West_Asian 30.66 Pct
East_Med 24.73 Pct
Red_Sea 5.81 Pct
South_Asian 2.32 Pct
East_Asian 4.02 Pct
Siberian 5.71 Pct
Amerindian 0.16 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Dodecad k12b:

Gedrosia 13.26 Pct
Siberian 4.11 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.69 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.83 Pct
North_European 10.89 Pct
South_Asian 0.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.36 Pct
East_Asian 5.14 Pct
Caucasus 41.21 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Hey, your k12b results,

Distance to: mrt
3.62452756 Turk_Central_East
3.66972751 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
4.10517966 Turk_Central_West
5.06595499 Turk_South
5.19769180 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.90774927 Turk_Southwest
7.46302218 Turk_Southeast
8.84153833 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.02755227 Turk_East
9.14862831 Turk_Northwest
9.60725767 Azerbaijani
11.18132819 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.52708549 Turk_Cyprus
11.83163133 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.28676524 Greek_Cappadocia
12.78376705 Armenian_East
13.12135283 Kabardin
13.21404177 Abazin
13.23750732 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.66550402 Greek_Kos
13.69695587 Circassian
13.83675901 Greek_Crete
13.92154805 Greek_Rhodes
13.93012922 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.97824381 Nusayri_Turkey

Target: mrt
Distance: 1.7050% / 1.70498994 | ADC: 0.25x
43.9 Turk_West_BlackSea
38.5 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.1 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.3 Greek_Cappadocia
0.2 Japanese

Distance to: mrt
1.98186391 33.80% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 66.20% Greek_Pontus
2.01759318 36.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 63.20% Turk_Northwest
2.05396890 23.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 76.20% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.11066198 30.00% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 70.00% Turk_Southwest
2.12192704 34.80% Greek_Pontus + 65.20% Turk_Northwest
2.18909863 28.20% Greek_Pontus + 71.80% Turk_Southwest
2.21931665 20.20% Hemshin + 79.80% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.26920327 22.00% Greek_Pontus + 78.00% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.27752031 19.60% Laz + 80.40% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.37154665 32.40% Hemshin + 67.60% Turk_Northwest
2.42399317 26.00% Hemshin + 74.00% Turk_Southwest
2.43685618 17.80% Georgian_Adjara + 82.20% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.45205715 25.20% Laz + 74.80% Turk_Southwest
2.46843433 14.40% Greek_Icaria + 85.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.46958600 15.00% Greek_Izmir + 85.00% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.48537981 16.60% Greek_Crete + 83.40% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.51525270 82.40% Turk_Central_West + 17.60% Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.52995748 31.60% Laz + 68.40% Turk_Northwest
2.54044467 16.40% Greek_Kos + 83.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.55660617 26.60% Armenian_East + 73.40% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.56354574 16.20% Greek_Rhodes + 83.80% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.58038929 15.20% Greek_Fournoi + 84.80% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.59807186 17.80% Greek_Cappadocia + 82.20% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.60431055 11.80% Georgian_Mingrelian + 88.20% Turk_Central_West
2.64536867 14.20% Laz + 85.80% Turk_Central_West

**Leto** · 05-15-2021, 05:23 PM

Your Dodecad oracle

Distance to: mrt19
3.62452756 Turk_Central_East
3.66972751 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
4.10517966 Turk_Central_West
5.06595499 Turk_South
5.19769180 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.90774927 Turk_Southwest
7.46302218 Turk_Southeast
8.84153833 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.02755227 Turk_East
9.14862831 Turk_Northwest

Target: mrt19
Distance: 1.3794% / 1.37937204 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.7 Turk_West_BlackSea
23.6 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.7 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
1.5 Greek_Cappadocia
1.5 Japanese

Target: mrt19
Distance: 2.0650% / 2.06497526 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.9 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
27.1 Turk_West_BlackSea
17.0 Greek_Cappadocia

Looks pretty decent IMO. You're ca. 10% East Eurasian/Mongoloid by the way, which may equal 20-25% Medieval Oghuz.

**mrt19** · 05-15-2021, 05:30 PM

Wow thx where does the Japanese come from ? : ) and is it an normal percentage 10 % east Eurasian/Mongoloid?

**Leto** · 05-15-2021, 05:42 PM

Yeah, that's normal for Western Turkey as far as I know.

Do you know your Y DNA? There are free predictors out there.

DNA.Land is not very serious, just for fun, so to speak.

**mrt19** · 05-15-2021, 05:43 PM

I found out it is G-P15

**Hektor12** · 05-15-2021, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

You're ca. 10% East Eurasian/Mongoloid by the way, which may equal 20-25% Medieval Oghuz.

Bro i want to question your formula.

I believe you're using "average" of some Oghuz samples. So for example, If there are 3 Oghuz samples; which have %10, %20, and %30, you take the average %20 and destermine Turkicnes by %20 east eurasian.

BUT= Dont forget that sample with %10 east eurasian is also fully Oghuz.