Germany and Croatia strongly condemn Bulgaria over Macedonia

[Cristiano viejo]

99.9% of Germans including me dont know jackshit about this conflict

Same here. Apricity is a source of knowledge, you know. I never heard about people like Komis, Chuvash, Maris, Ghegs and the other Albanians from south, now I dont remember their name, Vlachs, etc etc.

[Archduke]

Weren't there Slavic tribes in Northern Macedonia before the spread of the Bulgarian empire?

Does it stand to reason that some Slavs in North Macedonia still identify with the geographical term Macedonia under Byzantines, as opposed to the imposed identity of the first and second Bulgarian empires?

Whereby, the 7 Slavic tribes(more traditionally Bulgarian), would have assimilated to some degree North Macedonian Slavs?

Some of which were possibly settled since the Avaro-Slavic raids into Macedonia, Greece and Albania?

Maybe there was always a localized divergent element that became more popular/widespread after the break from Bulgaria?

Just food for thought.

I am not really interested in medieval history. There are many proven facts, but there are also parts of that time of history that are very contrversial and there are many theories and opinions.

The modern nations as we know them today, starts to develop in the 18th century on the Balkans. The fact that the Slavic speaking population of Macedonia started this process together with the people up to the Black sea is enough proof that these people had same development hundred of years before the 18th century.

Why didn't they start their revival process in the 18th century together with Serbs or Greeks? Because their cultural and linguistical ties with these two new-born nations weren't that strong.

[Arūnas]

for Teutone is better to know about Komi, Chuvashes & co rather than about Spain, natural resources from Russia (with love), and they can tan their ... back on Black Sea instead of Murcia also

[JohnnyP]

GDU party of Bulgarians in Macedonia (subsidiary of Karakachanov's VMRO) only got about 2,000 votes in the last MK elections. Another massive fail.

Bulgarians in Macedonia is big KEK, they are not existing , 90% of these "votes" are politically push with lobing etc..I have friend from Kumanovo who was promised to get good job in state institution with good salary but he must to declare himself like a Bulgarian( ofc he didn't did that ) I can imagine how many people which are poor accepted that..

[Crn Volk]

Weren't there Slavic tribes in Northern Macedonia before the spread of the Bulgarian empire?

Does it stand to reason that some Slavs in North Macedonia still identify with the geographical term Macedonia under Byzantines, as opposed to the imposed identity of the first and second Bulgarian empires?

Whereby, the 7 Slavic tribes(more traditionally Bulgarian), would have assimilated to some degree North Macedonian Slavs?

Some of which were possibly settled since the Avaro-Slavic raids into Macedonia, Greece and Albania?

Maybe there was always a localized divergent element that became more popular/widespread after the break from Bulgaria?

Just food for thought.

This is true. The Dragoviti were one such tribe;

The 7th-century Miracles of Saint Demetrius, which chronicle the Slavic invasions and settlement in the Balkans, list the first branch of the Drougoubitai along with four other Sclaveni tribes living in the vicinity of Thessalonica. According to the Miracles, they were led by kings, and were tributary allies to the Byzantines.[1] The Miracles also record their participation in two unsuccessful attacks by Sclaveni coalitions on Thessalonica, in 617/618 and 677.[2]

By 879, a bishopric of Drougoubiteia (Δρουγουβιτεία), suffragan to the Metropolis of Thessalonica, had been established. Nicolas Oikonomides has suggested that at about the same time, the tribe was placed under a Byzantine military governor with the title of strategos. In the late 10th and 11th centuries, Drougoubiteia is attested as being united with the themes of Thessalonica and Strymon into a single province.[3][4] In the early 10th century, John Kaminiates speaks of the Drougoubitai as living around Veroia, while in the 13th century, Demetrios Chomatenos mentions them as "ruling" all the land from Veroia up to Skopje.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drougoubitai

[Crn Volk]

The area was named Bulgaria when it was under the Byzantines.

The area between Plovdiv and Odrin was called Macedonia.

For how long, 5 minutes?

Under the Romans, it was Macedonia



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedo...oman_province)