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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Happy Croatia is supporting Macedonia on this one. Bulgaria has absolutely no right to blackmail Macedonia and interfere in their educational system especially considering EU let Bulgaria in when they were not fulfilling membership criteria.
    https://www.euractiv.com/section/pol...pjes-eu-talks/

    The Bulgarian Foreign Ministry has summoned Croatian ambassador to Sofia, Jasna Ognjanovac, for talks after harsh criticism directed at Sofia’s foreign policy by Croatian President Zoran Milanović.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    https://www.euractiv.com/section/pol...pjes-eu-talks/

    The Bulgarian Foreign Ministry has summoned Croatian ambassador to Sofia, Jasna Ognjanovac, for talks after harsh criticism directed at Sofia’s foreign policy by Croatian President Zoran Milanović.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    Croatia is quite influenced from Yugoslav propaganda. Especially regarding this issue, Croatia had to support us.

    But this is normal, the most recent member of the EU to support the next ones who will eventually join. Just like Bulgaria said "Yes" to Croatia few years ago, despite Croatia not being ready aswell.
    Please. You had half our GDP when you joined, and you joined years before us due to political reasons. Yugoslav propaganda? Don't make me laugh. You are abusing your power over things that are not yours to decide.

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    By the way, I like Bulgaria. This is just stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Please. You had half our GDP when you joined, and you joined years before us due to political reasons. Yugoslav propaganda? Don't make me laugh. You are abusing your power over things that are not yours to decide.
    Comparing GDP to prove how one country is more prepared than other...gold.

    There isn't huge difference between Croatia and Bulgaria. Considering the geographical position and other tiny factors, Croatia is supposed to be much more advanced, but it's not.

    Like I said, it is typical behaviour of the last ones to support the candidates, especially when in this case, the candidate and the last one are post-Yugoslav banana republics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    Comparing GDP to prove how one country is more prepared than other...gold.

    There isn't huge difference between Croatia and Bulgaria. Considering the geographical position and other tiny factors, Croatia is supposed to be much more advanced, but it's not.

    Like I said, it is typical behaviour of the last ones to support the candidates, especially when in this case, the candidate and the last one are post-Yugoslav banana republics.
    No, you were much poorer and much less developed than Croatia when you joined, that's a fact and not up for discussion. You joined not because you were ready, but because EU needed Romania and Bulgaria to block entry of Russian geopolitical influence in the Balkans.

    Croatia was not only lot more developed than Bulgaria, it was more developed than almost all eastern European countries that joined EU in 2004 as well, but we did not join due to political reasons and blockade from Slovenia later.

    Yes, now Croatia and Bulgaria are not far economically, because we were ruined by not being able to join EU in time and suck EU funds/investments for years like rest of you did, so you made huge advances and we regressed.

    This is exactly what you are doing to north Macedonia. Delaying their EU entry you are trying to weaken their economy and act like a foe, so I don't see why other members should tolerate that.
    Especially Croatia who suffered enormous economical damage by Slovenian blockade in the past.

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    Their president (of Croatia) is an ex-communist, from a sister party of Zaev's party, but the government, which has the hard word in the case, is not playing the whistle of the Republic of Northern Macedonia. It is naive to think that external pressure could change Bulgaria's position on Northern Macedonia. Skopje maintains the illusion among its citizens that it is possible to join the EU without meeting the basic criteria.
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    It is a question of misleading the public of European countries about the problem. It is also a matter of misleading the public in the Republic of Northern Macedonia about the problem. The problem between Bulgaria and the Republic of Northern Macedonia is quite clear - the Republic of Northern Macedonia signs agreements, which it obviously does not intend to fulfill after that. "
    The absurdity is that a candidate country is trying to teach the European Union and maintain the illusion among its citizens that it is possible to join the EU without meeting the basic criteria for accession and without parting with the ideological legacy of the time. of communism. The lobbying campaign by the Republic of Northern Macedonia has not been limited in recent weeks or months. It has been in full swing since the country became a member of NATO. This campaign shows a misunderstanding of the way the EU works and the way enlargement works.
    It is "unjustified and naive" to think that Bulgaria's position can be changed through external pressure. All EU member states are already aware that Bulgaria does not challenge the sovereignty of the Republic of Northern Macedonia, nor the right of its citizens to use the language that is official in the country. Based on a distorted version of history, the young generation in the Republic of Northern Macedonia is brought up in a spirit of hatred against Bulgaria. " It is not possible for Bulgaria to start membership negotiations with the Republic of Northern Macedonia before it has received reliable guarantees that Bulgaria's national interest will be preserved. " For 30 years, Bulgaria has consistently made goodwill gestures to Skopje, including support for its accession to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    By the way, I like Bulgaria. This is just stupid.
    For me it is stupid when someone has a certain position when he/she knows nothing about the issue. Keep in mind that the rulling class in North Macedonia understands the position of Bulgaria very well, but the deep country which is continuation of the times of Yugoslavia, doesn't want to solve the problem. Seems like the deep country in Croatia is Communist/Yugoslav aswell.

    If you have interest and time to read a book, which is written for the dispute between Bulgaria and fyrom, you can do it. This book is written in German and English and will be spread to our EU and USA parnters. The authors are from Bulgaria, fyrom, Serbia and Albania - half of them are from fyrom.

    https://www.academia.edu/45406587/WH...ORTH_MACEDONIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    For me it is stupid when someone has a certain position when he/she knows nothing about the issue. Keep in mind that the rulling class in North Macedonia understands the position of Bulgaria very well, but the deep country which is continuation of the times of Yugoslavia, doesn't want to solve the problem. Seems like the deep country in Croatia is Communist/Yugoslav aswell.
    Yes, deep state in Croatia is ex-communist and ran by former Yugoslav secret service. But I don't see how's that related.

    If you have interest and time to read a book, which is written for the dispute between Bulgaria and fyrom, you can do it. This book is written in German and English and will be spread to our EU and USA parnters. The authors are from Bulgaria, fyrom, Serbia and Albania - half of them are from fyrom.

    https://www.academia.edu/45406587/WH...ORTH_MACEDONIA
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    Will take a look.

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