Germany and Croatia strongly condemn Bulgaria over Macedonia

[Archduke]

double.

[PAGANE]

Croats should keep in mind why we veto the Republic of Northern Macedonia, and then not expect us to understand their problems with Serbia in connection with the request to join the EU - Croatia in this case is an arbiter - for Bosnia and Herzegovina. As the saying goes, look at me with one eye to look at you with both. Croatia is discussing Serbia's veto of EU membership. and because Macedonianism did not originate in Macedonia. It was created in Serbia and imposed by force. The real struggle against Macedonianism is by fighting the cause, and then the consequence is a matter of time to overcome.
And Serbia deserves a veto everywhere.

[Archduke]

The fyromian funny PM tries to convince everyone in Europe and most importantly - the people of fyrom, that Bulgaria denies their existence as a nation and how we want from them to"trade their Identity for EU accession". That's not true and it's the other way around. Their new identity is not only based on fake history. They portrait everything Bulgarian as "macedonian" - historical figures (from recent and not so recent times), literature, etnography, folklore.

Bulgaria cannot give part of it's identity because some new nation wants to get in the EU.

[Ayetooey]

Macedonia should be thankful for any EU veto. EU is a disaster and they should look at other Balkan states to see the extreme brain drain that occurred after joining.

[Mortimer]

Bulgaria is a fascist country

[PAGANE]

But you live alone in a fascist country

[Jana]

Macedonia should be thankful for any EU veto. EU is a disaster and they should look at other Balkan states to see the extreme brain drain that occurred after joining.

EU is a disaster for large and wealthy economies who don't need it. For Macedonia it's a lifeline. If not for EU, countries like Poland and Hungary would be much bigger shitholes today.
non EU Balkan members are experiencing almost same brain drain, just can't leech of EU resources like other members can.

There is absolutely no benefit for Macedonia to stay out of EU, only loss and stagnation.

[Jana]

Croats should keep in mind why we veto the Republic of Northern Macedonia, and then not expect us to understand their problems with Serbia in connection with the request to join the EU - Croatia in this case is an arbiter - for Bosnia and Herzegovina. As the saying goes, look at me with one eye to look at you with both. Croatia is discussing Serbia's veto of EU membership. and because Macedonianism did not originate in Macedonia. It was created in Serbia and imposed by force. The real struggle against Macedonianism is by fighting the cause, and then the consequence is a matter of time to overcome.
And Serbia deserves a veto everywhere.

Croatia won't be blocking Serbia in EU bid, too big cucks for that and it's completely uncomparable to Macedonia-Bulgaria issues which are related to identity and language and not recent war.

[Archduke]

Yes, deep state in Croatia is ex-communist and ran by former Yugoslav secret service. But I don't see how's that related.

It is related because the idea for the fyrom state as we know it today, was developed by the Communist International in favour of Yugoslavia. Today, macedonism is a legacy from the past that the Communists want to keep alive. That's why your president had such speech. Communist like him want to keep this project stable.

Croatia, as well as the other countries of former Yugoslavia, had more or less the same educational system, which produced citizen with similar views. I guess this is the reason why Croatia is pro-Macedonists.

The problem is that this new Macedonian identity is based on rejection of everything Bulgarian. At the same time they copy-paste everything from Bulgaria and the heritage of the Bulgarians in Macedonia. Self-declared Bulgarians from the past are being represented as Macedonians in fyrom. The Bulgarian heritage in fyrom is erased, for example in churches or monuments, they remove "Bulgarian" and write "Macedonian". The whole "Macedonian" literature is copy/paste from Macedonian Bulgarian authors and authors from Bulgaria proper and portraited as Macedonian. The technology is the same as with churches and monuments, they edit books, songs, narratives, fairytales and instead of Bulgarian, they write Macedonian. The part of the literature and history which is exclusively Macedonian, is after 1945, during the Yugoslav times.

They do not want to comment the existence of their identity, but they want from us to give up OUR identity and culture. Is that fair?

Not to mention the persecution of people who kept their Bulgarian identity - they are scared to openly identify as Bulgarian. They do not even have the chance to identify as Bulgarian in the census, when nearly 120 000 Macedonians have Bulgarian citizenship based on declared Bulgarian ancestry. Recent example would be their Eurovision song contestant, they wanted to remove him because he has Bulgarian roots. Human rights are important in the EU? Or I am mistaken?

[Dušan]

Croats should keep in mind why we veto the Republic of Northern Macedonia, and then not expect us to understand their problems with Serbia in connection with the request to join the EU - Croatia in this case is an arbiter - for Bosnia and Herzegovina. As the saying goes, look at me with one eye to look at you with both. Croatia is discussing Serbia's veto of EU membership. and because Macedonianism did not originate in Macedonia. It was created in Serbia and imposed by force. The real struggle against Macedonianism is by fighting the cause, and then the consequence is a matter of time to overcome.
And Serbia deserves a veto everywhere.

LOL keep vetoing Serbia, we dont want to enter the EU ever.