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    Quote Originally Posted by Satem View Post
    It's just one of factors of ethnicity, other one is cultural factor which here is defined by "Danishness". It can also define some traditions and using speaking Danish as well.
    There are more criteria of course but still the idea is not that bad.

    Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was also known as multicultural place which was free from religious war, everyone was respecting laws and it worked, each person living in Lithuanian part could be called "Lithuanian" no matter if the person was ethnically Ruthenian, Jewish, Polish, Tatar, Russian, Armenian, German or Lithuanian. And no, it wasn't so strong factor that lead to partitions, the only minority that wanted more and more were Cossacks. That's example that it can work somehow.

    It was up to Danish people to decide like that and making thread won't change anything, I was stating my opinion, you stated yours and that's great.
    I don't believe average Danish people recognize Somalis, Afgans and Nigerians as ethnic Danes even if they were born and raised there.
    Probably north Germans, Swedes and even Poles could assimilate to ethnic Danes and some did historically, but since wikipedia states it's not race related they are obviously pointing towards exotic immigrants from Asia and Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I don't believe average Danish people recognize Somalis, Afgans and Nigerians as ethnic Danes even if they were born and raised there.
    Probably north Germans, Swedes and even Poles could assimilate to ethnic Danes and some did historically, but since wikipedia states it's not race related they are obviously pointing towards exotic immigrants from Asia and Africa.
    As ethnic not really but they are legit part of their society if they integrate, they don't put emphasis on ancestry. We can't deny that Somali has different DNA than Danish but will it matter if they will behave as standard Danish? There are different opinions about that which can be seen in this thread
    Danish people decided like that, cause probably they wanted to give chance anyone who wants to come there because out of groups you mentioned only Poles would be in favor to come in larger numbers. Let's remember they possess Greenland with local Inuits so people of Denmark were not always homogenous group. Also there was Kalmar Union and people were mixing quite a lot with surrounding areas like southern Sweden, Frisia and north Germany so also Germanic people so only effective factor to differentiate from others that time was basing on culture, religion, cultivated traditions so I would say such decision could be actually based on Danish history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I don't believe average Danish people recognize Somalis, Afgans and Nigerians as ethnic Danes even if they were born and raised there.
    Probably north Germans, Swedes and even Poles could assimilate to ethnic Danes and some did historically, but since wikipedia states it's not race related they are obviously pointing towards exotic immigrants from Asia and Africa.
    There is difference beetween them, they are not racially danes but can integrate in the society pretty well if they have the opportunity, immigration isn't a major issues if it doesn't pass a certain percentage, it is more countries like France,Germany and Switzerland who should have concern. Let's not forget migrants are usefull to big owners of company only, the population don't need them

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    Well that's no surprise, these are official definitions but mostly it's a matter of wordplay (semantics). Everywhere in the West also here in the UK, when you use the word "ethnic" people think of dark-skinned people originating from Third World countries immediately. It's almost synonymous to "primitive". Nobody use "ethnic" to describe white people, aside from academics or in an academic essay. If you ask any white people here "are you ethnic?" they will think you ask if they have black ancestry. They will say "no".


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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post
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    Thank you. I just realised that the authors on the Wikipedia page about Danes has already given three citations about the paragraph on the original post:

    Danes generally regard themselves as a nationality and reserve the word "ethnic" for the description of recent immigrants,[35] sometimes referred to as "new Danes".[36] The contemporary Danish ethnic identity is based on the idea of "Danishness", which is founded on principles formed through historical cultural connections and is not based on racial heritage.[37]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    The contemporary Danish ethnic identity is based on the idea of "Danishness", which is founded on principles formed through historical cultural connections and is not based on racial heritage
    This is very similar to Turkish ethnic identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Ethnic identities are never culture based
    Neither racial.
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