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    My percentages are still the same, but I have a new genetic group: Eastern European Roma

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    Does it give any other info with the new group?
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    Also I don't do classifications currently, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calxpal View Post
    Does it give any other info with the new group?
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    Eastern European Roma

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    Community History
    The Roma are a diverse group of people that came to Europe from northern India in the Middle Ages. They have been inaccurately called “Gypsies” because of the misconception that they came from Egypt. The Roma have been one of the most persecuted minorities in Europe for centuries. Because of these experiences, Roma tend to be resilient, resourceful, and community-oriented people, determined to preserve their vibrant culture. Many Roma groups have a history of nomadism, though today a large number are permanently settled throughout Europe.
    1700–1750

    Traveller Communities in the North
    The United Kingdom has long been home to several Roma groups who came from continental Europe. Most were nomadic, traveling in warmer months to find seasonal agricultural work. In the winter, “Traveller” communities set up temporary encampments on the edges of towns, where they worked as smiths and peddlers. Some men also worked as musicians and some women as fortune tellers. Social life was organized around the family, as extended family traveled and lived together, no matter how large. Many Roma communities in the United Kingdom had converted from various religious backgrounds to Christianity by this time, and devotion to God was seen as an important social attribute.

    1750–1800
    Roma under the Hapsburg Monarchy
    By 1800, the Habsburg Monarchy included much of central and eastern Europe, where many Roma lived. Unlike some neighboring states where Roma were enslaved, the Habsburg Monarchy enacted strict assimilation policies to “integrate” Roma into society. New laws forced Roma to stop their nomadic way of life, stop speaking their language, stop wearing traditional clothing, and even dictated whom they could marry. These policies didn’t bring Roma people into local communities, where many people still considered them pariahs. Nor did they improve Romas’ economic position, as most remained poor peddlers, smiths, or seasonal agricultural workers.

    1800–1850
    Settling in Eastern Europe
    Roma in Hungary began to settle permanently over the course of the 19th century. Many built huts on the outskirts of villages, still segregated from the general population. Roma shanty towns became quite large in some cities, as settlement allowed for higher birth rates. Men worked as farmhands, smiths, or musicians in town, while women worked as servants in local households. By 1850, early signs of industrialization gave Roma more opportunities in metalwork, horse trading, bricklaying, scrap salvaging, and other forms of manual labor. However, many Roma resisted wage labor, opting instead to make their living from a combination of jobs.

    1850–1875
    The Second Migration
    In the mid-19th century, hundreds of thousands of Roma began migrating throughout Europe, spurred by the end of Roma slavery in 1856 and new economic opportunities provided by industrialization. Groups from central and eastern Europe followed several migration paths to western and northern Europe. From there, some immigrated to the United States and Canada. The Roma groups migrating in this period had a distinct sense of community, including a system of self-governance that operated separately from the state and came with them to their new homes. Many used a court system, for example, that relied on community consensus to settle disagreements.

    1875–1900
    The Gábor of Tîrgu Mureș
    The Gábor are a Roma ethnic group from Tîrgu Mureș in central Romania. Gábor means Gabriel, the name of the ancestor that members of this group share. To this day, men wear mustaches and wide-brimmed hats, while women wear long, pleated skirts and headscarves after they marry. The Gábor are descended from “tent Gypsies” who traveled in the summer, offering their services to rural populations, including sieve making, copper boiler making, and iron forging. The three most common Gábor surnames come from these three occupations, making up 90 percent of Gábor surnames today. This has been preserved through the tradition of arranged marriages.

    1900–1925
    Roma in Transylvania before World War I
    Roma in the Transylvania region (modern central and western Romania) are sometimes called “Hungarian Roma.” The Hungarian Roma are a diverse group but typically share an affinity with Hungarian peasant culture because they were assimilated into local villages to a degree. Music, folk dancing, and food became customs shared with their ethnically Hungarian neighbors. Although slavery had been abolished, many Roma remained manual laborers on wealthy estates until World War I. Some Roma groups led rebellions against their landlords, with many feeling a new self-awareness and desire to fight against Roma discrimination. These movements were sidelined during World War I, in which many Roma fought.

    1925–1950
    The Romani Holocaust
    From 1933 to 1945, the Roma people experienced an era of terror known as the Porajmos, or the Romani Holocaust. Nazi Germany began targeting Roma by restricting nomadism and outlawing Roma culture. As the Nazis took over Europe, anti-Roma policies spread and intensified. Roma faced deportation, forced sterilization, and mass murder, though policies did vary by country. In modern-day Bulgaria and North Macedonia, Roma were protected by the government. But Roma populations in Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, and Croatia were decimated. After World War II, the genocide against Roma was not discussed publicly for decades, not even at the Nuremberg Trials.

    1950–1975
    Roma During the Communist Era
    Central and eastern European countries became socialist states. In many of them, Roma had formed their own settlements miles away from other towns or cities, called ciganytelep in Hungary, osada in Slovakia, and tigania in Romania. However, the new socialist governments often confiscated private land to form “collectivized” farms, where Roma farmers were forced to live and work alongside other peasants. State sponsored urbanization pushed others into major cities like Bucharest. In 1971 the first World Romani Congress formally declared the Roma a nation. It also produced a national anthem, with lyrics in the Romani language, designed a flag, and began addressing issues Roma had faced for centuries.
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