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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    The Bulgars had no Slavic influence to them when they came to the Balkans. They did not have Slavic names, believe in Slavic gods, speak Slavic or look Slavic, so the theory is unlikely true.
    why don't you like Paella Atlantid race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veljo View Post
    why don't you like Paella Atlantid race?
    I like Paela, tastes nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    The Bulgars had no Slavic influence to them when they came to the Balkans. They did not have Slavic names, believe in Slavic gods, speak Slavic or look Slavic, so the theory is unlikely true.
    I think only the leaders and elites were mentioned in sources. Maybe there was stronger Slavic influences among other classes of the Bulgars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    It's fringe theory without any meaningful evidence
    Bazyli / Adam mentioned meaningful evidence in his essay.

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    The Golden Horse dna was buried alongside other soldiers, who were genetically close to Tuvans, and the sample is afaik from modern Kazakhstan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veljo View Post
    and the map from where the Slavs (r1a) came:
    https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/...sal.png?x59466
    I think Slavs "started" in Northern Europe like the map implies.

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    Here's an intersting article as an addendum to discussion; even bit more of interest for me as an E1b1b Slav.

    https://indo-european.eu/2019/04/com...group-e1b-v13/
    Target: cakmir7y_scaled
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    49.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    31.0 Celtic
    14.3 Germanic
    4.9 Balkan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
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    Interesting thread.

    But already a German that got Polonised (Adam Sengebusch) makes a first impression of being wrong also in other aspects.

    So my second thought was whether the term "Saqaliba" at all is translated applicable with Slavs. And voilá:

    "Saqaliba (Arabic: صقالبة‎, romanized: ṣaqāliba, singular Arabic: صقلبي‎, romanized: ṣaqlabī)[nb 1] is a term used in medieval Arabic sources to refer to Slavs and other peoples of Central and Eastern Europe, or in a broad sense to European slaves."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saqaliba

    By this most of the motivations do collaps. Also the assumption that tributaire to the Chasar Slavs have to be localized at the Itil (Volga) is erronous. The Chasar Empire reached much farer to the west where it easily could have ruled some Slaves at their traditionally assumed locations. (Just have a look at an arbitrary map of the Chasar Empire.) So there is not much left for this fringe theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    But already a German that got Polonised (Adam Sengebusch) makes a first impression of being wrong also in other aspects.
    He is from Bromberg I think it was a correct decision to get Polonised there (just like in Krakau during the "soczewica, koło, miele, młyn" period).

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    I read once that Slavs originated from the Jewish people, I mean that they invented that ethnos (term etc.), maybe to rule over? I don't know and don't remember more

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