Why do Europeans wish they could be Turkish?

[Thracian]

Also, bear in mind that the Ottomans were so successful in their conquests through Europe because of one factor. In pretty much almost every nation they encountered all the way to Vienna, there were traitors who welcomed the Ottomans. Take for instance Radu the Handsome from Romania, or other such janissaries from Serbia, from Bulgaria etc. If they had not betrayed their countries, you Ottomans would not have had any success even beyond East Balkans at best.

Real betrayers were families of those mighty Janissaries who left their children to Ottomans. Fortunately, Janissaries had a lot opportunities to take their revenge.

[mitalit]

Turks look better, smell better, are stronger, more intelligent and always say hello.

[Ygsi]

Real betrayers were families of those mighty Janissaries who left their children to Ottomans. Fortunately, Janissaries had a lot opportunities to take their revenge.

My point is, if there had been no one to betray their countries to the Ottomans, would the Ottomans have been as successful? I personally doubt it.

[gixajo]

Turks look better, smell better, are stronger, more intelligent and always say hello.

We, Andorrans, are superior, we do all this and we also say goodbye.

[mitalit]

We, Andorrans, are superior, we do all this and we also say goodbye.

Don't make me talk, Andorrans are probably the less developed "humans".

[Kaspias]

My point is, if there had been no one to betray their countries to the Ottomans, would the Ottomans have been as successful? I personally doubt it.

It is actually not betrayal. I mean, I can imagine it is a betrayal from a European point of view, however, it is more like picking a side between historical rivals when a different era has knocked on their door. There is a simple fact, Ottomans couldn't survive in the Western Balkans if there were no Bosniaks. And what did cause this "betrayal" of Bosniaks. Ummh, Bogomilism? Purging of Bosniaks by the Church in the past? So it is actually more than a betrayal and has many other trigger sources from the other events in the region's past. Arriving of the Ottomans brought many positive things to these people, so they changed their sides. And modern descendants of not only Bosniaks but all other Balkanites who preferred to side with Ottomans at that time period are still persistent with their choices, even the most are being more radical than Turkey Turks.

Eastern Balkans is a different story, on the other hand. It was already a Turkish homeland in the 15th Century due to actual Turkish settlements in the region. Success in the region is not exactly related to the presence of Janissaries, however, Janissaries were extended in the region towards the 16th century.

[gixajo]

Don't make me talk, Andorrans are probably the less developed "humans".

Don´t be so envious, please...

Andorrans are the master race.

Any person that is not Andorran is "Almorran".

[Arūnas]

It's quite opposite, they want be Paleo, you have to turn back half year to the taxonomy threads

[DarkSecret]

OFC a 3rd world Indian who lives in a slum will say he would like to live in Turkey, will that prove any of your points? Just him telling it's an European country in the first part of the sentence, proves that he has no idea what he is talking about. Do I care what's happening in Canada? You can move your whole family at this point from Turkey and I would care less.

Lol. At least you don't hide your hatred. At least I am not a visible minority. I would be beaten by the likes of you.

[King Niko]

It's quite opposite, they want be Paleo, you have to turn back half year to the taxonomy threads

I have been here for years, much of the Europeans here hate the fact that they want to be Turkish, so they lie and dig so hard to find anything to make them "White" even though more then likely their grand mother was a Turkish concubine. It is just the facts, ask German's why so many Turks live there, and in Austria, etc., because they need their masters close to dictate what they need to do.