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    From Cambridge University England...

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journ...626755E5269324

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    Comparative history may be fashionable these days, but references to the past of precolonial sub-Saharan Africa in the literature on early Scandinavia, and vice versa, are still hard to come by. Perhaps this is as it should be, as Scandinavia and Sub-Saharan Africa are generally considered to be worlds apart. Besides, there is the time-lag involved: pre-Christian Scandinavia, including the Norse world, came to an end in roughly the eleventh century, whereas the precolonial era in sub-Saharan Africa lasted into the 1880s at the earliest. But many years ago, when after a prolonged immersion in African history, I picked up some books, including printed primary sources, related to pre-Christian Norway, I was invaded by a strange feeling of déjà vu, of having seen it all before, precisely in sub-Saharan Africa of old. Pre-Christian Norwegian, or Norse, society suddenly began to make sense to me as it had never done before.

    Why the similarities I believe I have detected, and how significant are they? Is it possible that they are in some way more relevant or meaningful than the differences? Can we even speak of a problem of similarities à la Henri Frankfort? I have no ready-made answers to these questions. In fact my aim in this paper is a fairly modest one, that of offering some tentative, possibly speculative, observations, thoughts, and/or conclusions. I take as my point of departure the obvious, or trivial, point that precolonial sub-Saharan Africa and pre-Christian Norway did have something quite essential in common: the prevalence in both cases of ”pagan” (or “heathen”) and overwhelmingly agrarian kinship-type societies. In the case of Norway and Scandinavia, the Viking era (790s to somewhere in the tenth century), with its marked maritime orientation, constituted perhaps a rupture. Extensive seafaring, including maritime raiding and pillaging, not to mention the emergence of so-called sea kings, implies mobility, and mobile people do not fit readily into the “model” that is outlined in this essay. It may be, however, that the inland regions of the Nordic world were not always directly or even deeply influenced by what happened on the coast. Note that the words “pagan” and “heathen” are used here for want of a better expression, in the sense of “non-revealed” or “ethnic” religions. By kinship-type societies I mean collectivist-oriented societies composed not primarily of individuals, but of kindreds or lineages.

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    You seem to be weirdly obsessed with Scandinavians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halvard View Post
    You seem to be weirdly obsessed with Scandinavians.
    I'm interested in primitive population.. It is not an obsession...

    Historical accademics ( not blacks or africans ) from all Europe and USA are debunking almost every myth regard Viking and discovering many facts about the S.S West african empires much older than viking culture..

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    I'm interested in primitive population.. It is not an obsession...

    Historical accademics ( not blacks or africans ) from all Europe and USA are debunking almost every myth regard Viking and discovering many facts about the S.S West african empires much older than viking culture..
    Cool story. Now go play with your toy legionnaires. Perhaps in your fantasy they`ll be finally able to score in Teutoburg Forest.
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    Another troll thread attacking Scandinavians opened by a jealous Southern European. This is getting boring...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delacroix View Post
    Another troll thread attacking Scandinavians opened by a jealous Southern European. This is getting boring...
    History and new research performed by USA and English accademics.. What is wrong with that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stahlbestie91 View Post
    Cool story. Now go play with your toy legionnaires. Perhaps in your fantasy they`ll be finally able to score in Teutoburg Forest.

    Limes.. 1/3 of today germany ( including the poorest east germany ) had been under the thumb of ancient romans for almost 500 years... Trier was also a capital of Roman Empire..



    Before Teutoburg 100% of germany was under the control of the romans.. ( not only 2 years like the nazi occupation in Europe during II w.w. but for 50 years...)



    South and west germany should separate from north and east germany..

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    You seem to hate Germanics people it seems? These things happend 2000 years ago, two fucking thousand years, who gives a fuck? who controlled what 2000 years ago? Next thing you are telling, why South/West Germany is more more developed/richer than east? probably is due to romans ruled them 2000 years ago. Yeah probably its that, communism in the east most likely never had anything to do with that...

    Yeah its undeniable that Romans were far more developed and sophisticated than any germanic tribes, but comparing them to SSA? Calling them primitive? A culture being able to metallurgy, arts, planned organization and developed agriculture? Come on now... Yes some SSA cultures were very developed, had metallurgy, organization and beautiful arts, however were they the norm? For SSA cultures any form that came close to Germanic tribes even in year 0, was the exception,not the norm.

    Correct me if i am wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    Limes.. 1/3 of today germany ( including the poorest east germany ) had been under the thumb of ancient romans for almost 500 years... Trier was also a capital of Roman Empire..



    Before Teutoburg 100% of germany was under the control of the romans.. ( not only 2 years like the nazi occupation in Europe during II w.w. but for 50 years...)



    South and west germany should separate from north and east germany..
    Lulz, Treuorum wasnt even founded by the romans, but rather stolen from the Treveri.
    Also how come, that the mighty romans, the greatest civilization that ever existed in all the universe, were so utterly destroyed in one single battle by us dumb ass barbarians, that they ran away with only their dicks in hand, built a gigantic wall and lived in constant fear and terror ever since? I could swear, that whenever I`m standing by the shores of the Rhine, instead of hearing the sound of the water, I can still hear the "nope, nope, nope, nope" from the poor roman souls stationed there. But that`s okay, I wouldnt want to be a scrawny 1,50m roman stationed at the germanic border either.

    Same situation in Northern Britain with the picts. (Hadrians Wall)
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