Post YourDnaPortal updated Eurogenes K13 Ancient Oracle (Admix 2/4/10/100 )

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Closest population distances
Population
Distance
scy010_Ukraine_Scythian.SG_2619_ybp
1.543
DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
1.576
scy009_Ukraine_Scythian.SG_2550_ybp
1.620
DA197_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2510_ybp
1.643
RISE479_Hungary_Vatya.SG_3700_ybp
1.656
BR1_Hungary_Mako_Culture_2100_BC_2100_BC_
1.656
DA191_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2524_ybp
1.678
MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645_
1.763

Admix 2 Oracle
Population
Value
I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp
50
Kretuonas2_Lithuania_EMN_Narva_4200_ybp
50

Admix 4 Oracle
Population
Value
I0073_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
25
MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645_
25
scy009_Ukraine_Scythian.SG_2550_ybp
25
Vs_1188_Ancient_Suwalki_R1a_R1a_
25

Admix 10% - min
Population
Value
I0073_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
30
MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645_
20
Vs_1188_Ancient_Suwalki_R1a_R1a_
20
Kretuonas4_Lithuania_EMN_Narva_4200_ybp
10
scy010_Ukraine_Scythian.SG_2619_ybp
10
Spiginas2_Lithuania_LN_1940_ybp
10

Admix 1% - min
Population
Value
I0073_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
29
Vs_1188_Ancient_Suwalki_R1a_R1a_
20
MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645_
15
Kretuonas4_Lithuania_EMN_Narva_4200_ybp
11
Spiginas2_Lithuania_LN_1940_ybp
10
RISE479_Hungary_Vatya.SG_3700_ybp
4
ANCIENT_NV3001_Nevinnomisky3_Steppe_of_N_Caucasus_ 3970_years_old_
3
I2176_Bulgaria_EBA_published_5132_ybp
2
scy009_scythian_Ukraine_768_431bce_
2
BR1_Hungary_Mako_Culture_2100_BC_2100_BC_
1
I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp
1
JK1970_Levaluhta_
1
MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
1

[Grace O'Malley]

Closest population distances
Population Distance

I2655_Scotland_MBA_3308_ybp 0.275
I1775_Wales_CA_EBA_3597_ybp 0.283
I2859_Scotland_LBA_2811_ybp 0.448
I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp 0.459
I3130_Scotland_LBA_2854_ybp 0.472
I2639_England_EMBA_3465_ybp 0.510
France_BA_OBE3626-1 0.520
I4141_Czech_Unetice_EBA_4250_ybp 0.522

Admix 2 Oracle
Population Value

France_BA_OBE3626-1 50
I1775_Wales_CA_EBA_3597_ybp 50

Admix 4 Oracle
Population Value

France_BA_PIR3116B 25
France_IA_BES1248 25
I3130_Scotland_LBA_2854_ybp 25
kzb009_srubno_alakulskaya_1764_1624bce_ 25




Admix 10% - min
Population Value

I1775_Wales_CA_EBA_3597_ybp 40
I0099_HalberstadtLNBA_ 20
France_BA_OBE3626-1 10
France_IA_BES1248 10
France_IA_PEY53 10
I3130_Scotland_LBA_2854_ybp 10

Admix 1% - min
Population Value

I1775_Wales_CA_EBA_3597_ybp 45
France_BA_OBE3626-1 17
I3130_Scotland_LBA_2854_ybp 13
France_IA_PEY53 10
I0099_HalberstadtLNBA_ 5
I2859_Scotland_LBA_2811_ybp 4
Kretuonas4_Lithuania_EMN_Narva_4200_ybp 3
France_BA_PIR3116B 1
France_IA_PECH5 1
I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp 1

Closest population distances
Population Distance

Scottish 0.350
Irish_Connacht 0.373
Dutch_North 0.376
Norwegian 0.390
Irish_Leinster 0.393
Orcadian 0.395
Irish 0.397
West_Scottish 0.408

Admix 2 Oracle
Population Value

Norwegian 50
Scottish 50

Admix 4 Oracle
Population Value

Irish_Connacht 25
Irish_Ulster 25
North_German 25
Norwegian 25

Admix 10% - min
Population Value

Norwegian 40
Irish_Ulster 20
Scottish 20
Irish_Connacht 10
North_German 10

Admix 1% - min
Population Value

West_Scottish 51
Norwegian 46
Dargin 3

[J.S.]

Is there really something with French BA_IA samples or am i just biased, because i a have he impression a lot of people here from the western fringe of the European population are ancient French like...

[gixajo]

Is there really something with French BA_IA samples or am i just biased, because i a have he impression a lot of people here from the western fringe of the European population are ancient French like...

Both here and in other forums, many have complained about the same thing, since they appeared, they always aroused quite controversial.

Some say they are samples of very poor quality, others that they are not representative ... I was quite surprised that they had put those samples in the sources, because there are many critics about their authentic value.

The truth is that they are ancient samples, from a geographical area and of a time with many influences, and that they have a lot of variation, so I do not see so strange that they are close to people of different origins.

We must also bear in mind that we do not know what the datasheet of that oracle is, or what variety of samples it has or how many there are.

In such ancient samples we should not give much value to the label of the current country that they carry.

[PlattitüdenPaule]

Is there really something with French BA_IA samples or am i just biased, because i a have he impression a lot of people here from the western fringe of the European population are ancient French like...

My guess would be, that these are Celtic samples (correct me if I`m wrong) and since (I dare to say) all Western European natives have at least some Celtic heritage, while a lot have it as a major and some even their main influence, it`s pretty clear how it comes to this.

[gixajo]

My guess would be, that these are Celtic samples (correct me if I`m wrong) and since (I dare to say) all Western European natives have at least some Celtic heritage, while a lot have it as a major and some even their main influence, it`s pretty clear how it comes to this.

Because of the periods in which they are dated, and because of the origins of the members who score in those samples, it is possibly as you say.

[J.S.]

Because of the periods in which they are dated, and because of the origins of the members who score in those samples, it is possibly as you say.

I also tend to think there is a layer of Ancient French-like population in this Western fringe of Europe.

[Ritz06]

Admix 2 Oracle

DA35_Armenia_LchashenMetsamor.SG_3227_ybp 50
France_IA_BES1248 50

Admix 4 Oracle

DA231_Kazakhstan_Andronovo.SG_3468_ybp 25
DA31_Armenia_LchashenMetsamor.SG_3200_ybp 25
I2495_Anatolia_EBA_4377_ybp 25
I2654_Scotland_MBA_3278_ybp 25

Admix 10% - min

54_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3770_ybp 10
cim358_Moldova_Cimmerian.SG_2840_ybp 10
DA31_Armenia_LchashenMetsamor.SG_3200_ybp 10
DA382_Turkmenistan_IA.SG_2806_ybp 10
I2463_England_CA_EBA_3785_ybp 10
I2655_Scotland_MBA_3308_ybp 10
I3759_Celtiberian_I3759_Celtiberian_m_ 10
I9041_Greece_Mycenaean_3250_ybp 10
kzb001_Russia_Srubnaya_Alakul.SG_3594_ybp 10
VEK009_Velikent_Kura_Araxes_4850_J1_z1842_U4a2_ 10

Admix 1% - min

I2654_Scotland_MBA_3278_ybp 12
kzb003_Russia_Srubnaya_Alakul.SG_3650_ybp 11
Kura_Araxes_ 9
I1658_Armenia_EBA_5170_ybp 6
Canaanite_ERS1790729_ 5
I0160_England_IA.SG_1995_ybp 5
VEK009_Velikent_Kura_Araxes_4850_J1_z1842_U4a2_ 4
DA382_Turkmenistan_IA.SG_2806_ybp 3
France_IA_BFM265 3
I1370_Vanuatu_2900BP_all_2930_ybp 3
I3130_Scotland_LBA_2854_ybp 3
I7041_Hungary_BA_brother.I7043_4300_ybp 3
Ker1_Russia_Crimea_Pantikapaion.SG_1622_ybp 3
Canaanite_ERS1790733_ 2
DA51_Kyrgyzstan_TianShanSaka.SG_2242_ybp 2
France_IA_COL153A 2
I0099_HalberstadtLNBA_ 2
I2495_Anatolia_EBA_4377_ybp 2
KDC002_Kudachurt_MBA_N_Caucasus_3734_years_old_HV1 a1_ 2
kzb005_srubno_alakulskaya_1881_1692bce_ 2
kzb007_srubno_alakulskaya_1873_1637bce_ 2
M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp 2
DA56_Kyrgyzstan_OutTianShanSaka.SG_2048_ybp 1
F38_Iran_IA.SG_2852_ybp 1
France_IA_ERS88 1
I1635_Armenia_EBA_4492_ybp 1
I1656_Armenia_MBA_3402_ybp 1
I3759_Celtiberian_I3759_Celtiberian_m_ 1
I5750_Netherlands_EBA_4050_ybp 1
INM_Dravi_Cambodian_Ocean_ver0_ 1
kzb001_Russia_Srubnaya_Alakul.SG_3594_ybp 1
kzb006_srubno_alakulskaya_1771_1626bce_ 1
MA2205_Anatolia_MLBA.SG_3800_ybp 1
RISE374_Hungary_Maros.SG_3693_ybp 1

[alexmegas777]

Closest population distances
Population
Distance
DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
0.592
I7043_Hungary_BA_4000_ybp
0.906
R1_Abruzzo_Teramo_Late_Bronze_Age_Italy
0.941
I5759_Switzerland_EBA_4178_ybp
1.063
SZ1_Hungary_BA.SG_3950_ybp
1.091
DA197_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2510_ybp
1.091
France_IA_NOR2B6
1.117
I4332_Croatia_MBA_3516_ybp
1.145
Admix 2 Oracle
Population
Value
R1_Abruzzo_Teramo_Late_Bronze_Age_Italy
50
scy010_Ukraine_Scythian.SG_2619_ybp
50
Admix 4 Oracle
Population
Value
ATP9_Iberia_BA.SG_3634_ybp
25
I1538_Germany_Corded_Ware_4225_ybp
25
I9010_Mycenaean_1351_bc_
25
MJ34_West_Scythian_R1a0Z93_
25
Admix 10% - min
Population
Value
65_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3650_ybp
10
Afanasievo_RISE509_Russia_290902468_BC
10
DA197_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2510_ybp
10
DA198_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_
10
France_IA_NOR4
10
I5750_Netherlands_EBA_4050_ybp
10
I5769_Bulgaria_IA_2600_ybp
10
ILK002_Ukraine_Globular_Amphora_4752_ybp
10
RISE479_Hungary_Vatya.SG_3700_ybp
10
scy011_scythian_Ukraine_358_108_BCE_F_A_
10

Admix 1% - min
Population
Value
kzb005_srubno_alakulskaya_1881_1692bce_
18
France_IA_NOR2B6
6
I0070_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
6
I1272_Iberia_C_4627_ybp
6
France_IA_COL153A
4
I0099_HalberstadtLNBA_
4
IR1_Ludas_Varju_dulo_Hungary_830_980_cal_BC_M_N_M2 31_G2a1_
4
scy009_scythian_Ukraine_768_431bce_
4
Sidon_BA_ERS1790731_
4
ANCIENT_PG2002_Progress2_Steppe_of_N_Caucasus_4365 _years_old_
3
Bul6_Bulgaria_Beli_Breyag_EBA_4450_ybp
3
I2495_Anatolia_EBA_4377_ybp
3
I7041_Hungary_BA_brother.I7043_4300_ybp
3
MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
3
BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
2
I1284_Iberia_C_4573_ybp
2
I7043_Hungary_BA_4000_ybp
2
JK1970_Levaluhta_
2
MA2200_Anatolia_MLBA.SG_3800_ybp
2
RISE487_Remedello_di_Sotto_Italy_4557_years_M_I_CT S6231_H2c1_
2
scy010_scythian_795_542bce_F_N1b1a_
2
Vs_1188_Ancient_Suwalki_R1a_R1a_
2
Be11_Berel_Kazakhstan_Pazyryk_4_3_century_BCE_
1
DA197_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2510_ybp
1
France_IA_NOR4
1
I0073_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
1
I9005_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
1
ILK002_Ukraine_Globular_Amphora_4752_ybp
1
JK1968_Levaluhta_
1
KDC002_Kudachurt_MBA_N_Caucasus_3734_years_old_HV1 a1_
1
Kretuonas2_Lithuania_EMN_Narva_4200_ybp
1
Kura_Araxes_
1
R29_Sardinia_Bronze_Age_Sardinia
1
Sidon_BA_ERS1790730_
1
Sidon_BA_ERS1790732_
1

[InfamousAngel99]

Closest Pop. Distances:
I2458_England_MBA_3340_ybp 0.408
I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp 0.477
France_BA_RIX4 0.532
I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp 0.581
France_IA_ERS1164 0.650
France_IA_NOR3-6 0.661
M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp 0.687
France_BA_BIS385 0.699

Admix 2 Oracle:
France_IA_BFM265 50
I0117_Germany_Unetice_EBA_4106_ybp 50

Admix 4 Oracle:
France_IA_NOR4 25
I2458_England_MBA_3340_ybp 25
I2860_Scotland_LBA_2843_ybp 25
RISE494_Sabinka_2_Russia_3081_years_M_R_P245_I4a_ 25

Admix 10% Min.:
I0099_HalberstadtLNBA_ 20
DA191_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2524_ybp 10
France_IA_COL153A 10
I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp 10
I1274_Iberia_C_brother.of.I1277_4573_ybp 10
I2654_Scotland_MBA_3278_ybp 10
I4331_Croatia_MBA_3526_ybp 10
rath3_Ireland_BA.SG_3585_ybp 10
RISE494_Sabinka_2_Russia_3081_years_M_R_P245_I4a_ 10

Admix 1% Min.:
France_IA_BFM265 19
I0099_HalberstadtLNBA_ 19
France_BA_RIX4 10
Spiginas1_Lithuania_EMN_Narva_4340_ybp 6
France_BA_QUIN234 5
I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp 5
I0118_Germany_Alberstedt_LN_4309_ybp 4
I2654_Scotland_MBA_3278_ybp 4
I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp 3
kzb006_srubno_alakulskaya_1771_1626bce_ 3
France_IA_COL11 2
I0073_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp 2
I0160_England_IA.SG_1995_ybp 2
kzb009_srubno_alakulskaya_1764_1624bce_ 2
RISE484_Hungary_Vatya.SG_3700_ybp 2
RISE487_Remedello_di_Sotto_Italy_4557_years_M_I_CT S6231_H2c1_ 2
DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp 1
France_IA_NOR4 1
I1271_Iberia_C_4573_ybp 1
I1658_Armenia_EBA_5170_ybp 1
I7041_Hungary_BA_brother.I7043_4300_ybp 1
ILK003_Ukraine_Globular_Amphora_4752_ybp 1
kzb005_srubno_alakulskaya_1881_1692bce_ 1
la_Brana_WHG_ 1
R1021_Lazio_Frosinone_Iron_Age_Latini 1
WEZ15_BA_Wezlin_tollense_bronze_age 1