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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    At this stage, I do believe you're either 1/2 or 3/4 Bulgarian (or maybe Macedonian migrator), right? I would have guessed you are from somewhere around Varna. Anyway, let me know if you are confused at any stage.
    Sorry I wasn't clear. My dad is 1/2 Bulgarian (my maternal grandma is from Pazardzik) and 1/2 Tatar. My mom is 1/2 Bulgarian (my maternal grandma is from Yambol) and 1/2 Greek (my maternal grandpa is from Pella, Northern Greece. I am 1/2 Bulgarian, 1/4 Tatar and 1/4 Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Sure. Can you also post your Dodecad K12b?
    Here is Dodecad K12b:
    1 North_European 29.26
    2 Caucasus 27.05
    3 Atlantic_Med 25.96
    4 Southwest_Asian 5.84
    5 East_Asian 3.78
    6 Gedrosia 3.28
    7 Northwest_African 2.22
    8 Siberian 1.2
    9 Southeast_Asian 0.6
    10 South_Asian 0.37
    11 East_African 0.24
    12 Sub_Saharan 0.2

    The Gedmatch version provided only 20 options for the Oracle-2 mixed mode and none of these options seemed accurate. For example they modeled me as 60% Sicilian and 40% Russian which is very inaccurate considering that I don't belong to either population. So I transferred my scores to Vahaduo. Here screenshots of Dodecad K12b population distancies and mixed mode:
    http://imgur.com/a/vE2zy68

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyComrade View Post
    Here is Dodecad K12b:
    1 North_European 29.26
    2 Caucasus 27.05
    3 Atlantic_Med 25.96
    4 Southwest_Asian 5.84
    5 East_Asian 3.78
    6 Gedrosia 3.28
    7 Northwest_African 2.22
    8 Siberian 1.2
    9 Southeast_Asian 0.6
    10 South_Asian 0.37
    11 East_African 0.24
    12 Sub_Saharan 0.2

    The Gedmatch version provided only 20 options for the Oracle-2 mixed mode and none of these options seemed accurate. For example they modeled me as 60% Sicilian and 40% Russian which is very inaccurate considering that I don't belong to either population. So I transferred my scores to Vahaduo. Here screenshots of Dodecad K12b population distancies and mixed mode:
    http://imgur.com/a/vE2zy68
    The community-led version of K12b is even better but gives very mixed results in your case. Your Tatar grandfather probably had around 20% Eastern Eurasian, and through generations, his contribution to the gene pool became lesser. We have to see a straightforward 25% Tatar in that case, but in my runs, I was able to get 13% at maximum. This could be because of the "random inheritance" I mentioned previously. We receive 50-50 from our parents, but in population genomics which statistical sources have variable references, these 50-50 can be combined or replaced by something else. I'm ~65% closer to my father, for example, and a similar case apparently goes for you. Otherwise, the influence of that Tatar ancestor would be more than what we see now.

    See these oracles from updated Vahaduo:

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    Distance to:	FriendlyComrade
    1.81512856	94.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.20% Xibo
    1.83864900	5.20% Hezhen + 94.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    1.89068881	94.40% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.60% Tibetan
    1.91731843	5.20% Daur + 94.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    1.93546695	94.60% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.40% Nepali_Kirant_Rai
    1.93632603	95.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.00% Naga
    1.94635861	4.80% Korean + 95.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    1.97344366	4.60% Japanese + 95.40% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    1.97587549	94.60% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.40% Tu
    2.09219114	94.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.80% Nepali_Gurung
    2.10920210	5.00% Han_north + 95.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    2.11797587	94.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.20% Nivh
    2.16745983	94.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.20% Naxi
    2.17605740	5.60% Dungan + 94.40% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    2.17641314	94.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.20% Yizu
    2.28643162	94.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 6.00% Mongol_Khalkh
    2.40217158	94.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 6.00% Mongol_Uuld
    2.40425805	95.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.00% Nanai
    2.46199665	95.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.00% Oroqen
    2.47096803	6.20% Kalmyk + 93.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    2.55198582	7.20% Kyrgyz + 92.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    2.57705408	95.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 5.00% Negidal
    2.64725900	7.80% Kazakh + 92.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    2.65935977	90.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 9.20% Nogai_Stavropol
    2.67712123	4.80% Han_central + 95.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    Apparently, a combination of 1/2 Bulgarian ancestor and 1/4 Greek ancestor made you closest to Macedonians, also Eastern Bulgarians and Gagauz. These regions have a similar input, so it's actually just a genetic similarity -you are partly Eastern Bulgarian yourself, though-

    And the single population sharing. Fits are lesser compared to K13.

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    Distance to:	FriendlyComrade
    4.95739851	Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    5.23284817	Greek_Macedonia
    5.29381715	Macedonian_East
    5.42269306	Moldovan_Gagauz
    5.43967830	Bulgarian_East
    5.59620407	Macedonian_Polog
    5.66458295	Macedonian_Vardar
    5.75006087	Bulgarian_Central
    5.77209667	Macedonian_South
    6.03088717	Pomak_Bulgaria
    6.13740173	Bulgarian_West
    6.22775240	Turk_Makedonya
    6.53645164	Albanian_Kosovo
    6.64698428	Pomak_Greece
    6.68495325	Moldovan_South
    6.84019006	Romanian
    7.05876051	Turk_Deliorman
    7.13413625	Bulgarian_Thrace
    7.75937497	Greek_Thessaly
    7.93879714	Greek_Thessaloniki
    8.31533523	Greek_Thrace
    8.79137646	Montenegrin
    8.82946204	Turk_Trakya
    8.99975000	Albanian
    10.45170321	Greek_Peloponnese

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    Thanks for your efforts! What you said is very informative!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyComrade View Post
    Thanks for your efforts! What you said is very informative!
    Kaspias is the best.

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    Hi,
    Is your father tested as well? Because you wouldn't have known the Y DNA if you are a female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Hi,
    Is your father tested as well? Because you wouldn't have known the Y DNA if you are a female.
    Yes, he has also been tested with 23andme. Btw his maternal haplogroup is R0.

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    Hello FriendlyComrade
    I have already done my 23andme too, I am also C-F1756 and I think we are close cousins as it it very rare in all DNA tests database (we are Ukrainian). I Hope you contact me or your father contacts me.
    Thanks alot

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    Hi cousin
    Are you C-F3830 ??? it is very rare DNA, so I believe we are so close to each other

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