This is very true. The Spanish writer Fernando Martínez Laínez spoke about this in one of his books about the Tercios, especifically his stay in Turín, city that he found dirty, grey and disorganized. He also criticized the motorways of Piamonte, something a coworker of mine also told me.
Then I watched a video in Jewtube where an Italian who had come to Spain marveled about the Spanish railway system, and he compared it with that of Italy, whom he criticized.
Then I watched another video in Jewtube about Spanish living in Naples and while they also say positive things about the Napolitans, lot of criticism as well: the streets, the mafia behavior even among normal people, dirt and decrepit city, etc.
I have seen comments so of Spaniards in travel webs about Naples, so it has to be true.
Then I remember a comment in past of Etore Messina, a Sicilian ex-trainer of Real Madrid of basketball, quoting an incident he suffered with the car in Madrid and saying he though that only happened in Italy, in a bad way
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