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    Here's also Lebanese Christians for comparison:

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver_surfer View Post
    Most of the Jews you are referring to are European Jews, who have intermarried with other Europeans for hundreds of years. There are many dark skinned Jewish groups. Furthermore, Arabs from "Levantine" countries (Lebanon, Palestine, Syria and Iraq) are in many instances very light-skinned with colored eyes.

    Jews are a diverse group of people. There are three main types of Jewish people:

    • Ashkenazi: origins in northwestern and eastern Europe
    • Sephardic: origins in the Iberian peninsula (Spain and Portugal)
    • Mizarahi: origins in North Africa, the Middle East, and Asia

    You are probably thinking of Ashkenazi Jews. Ashkenazi Jews have been in Europe for centuries and have intermarried with Europeans to a certain extent, which explains their appearances.
    Ashkenazi Jews have minor European DNA though. We are genetically overwhelmingly Ancient Middle Eastern, unlike the Muslim Middle Easterners whom are mixed with Blacks, Arabs and Central Asians which reflects in their phenotype.

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    They have rights to stay in their country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David24 View Post
    Ashkenazi Jews have minor European DNA though. We are genetically overwhelmingly Ancient Middle Eastern, unlike the Muslim Middle Easterners whom are mixed with Blacks, Arabs and Central Asians which reflects in their phenotype.
    Have I missed something or are Arabs not also middle easterners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lustermoo View Post
    Have I missed something or are Arabs not also middle easterners?
    They're mixed with black—not exactly pure Middle Easterners. Examples of pure Middle Easterners: Druze, Jews, and Christians, e.g. Cypriots, Lebanese Christians, Assyrians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

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    Quote Originally Posted by David24 View Post
    They're mixed with black—not exactly pure Middle Easterners. Examples of pure Middle Easterners: Druze, Jews, and Christians, e.g. Cypriots, Lebanese Christians, Assyrians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
    In general, their ssa is not that high,
    And Bedouins are quite ‘’pure’’

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    Quote Originally Posted by lustermoo View Post
    In general, their ssa is not that high,
    And Bedouins are quite ‘’pure’’
    Look at the pictures posted by the OP. If these people don't look mixed with black to you then I recommend some glasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David24 View Post
    Ashkenazi Jews have minor European DNA though. We are genetically overwhelmingly Ancient Middle Eastern, unlike the Muslim Middle Easterners whom are mixed with Blacks, Arabs and Central Asians which reflects in their phenotype.
    This is cope, obviously most Arab Muslims are more indigenous than Ashkenazi Jews. The SSA in AJs is 2-3%, the SSA in Arab Levantines is 2-6% or so with some outliers. No significant C. Asian DNA, same as Ashkenazi Jews. Complete nonsense post.

    Of course a few families/towns DO come from elsewhere. There's one coastal town in Syria which is mostly Cretan Greek, a couple of villages in Israel which are Moroccan, etc. But the majority are local.

    A lot of Arabs in the area are settled Bedouin rather than 'true' ancient Levantines though, f/e most of Hebron.

    But on the other hand, Ashkenazim are ~45% non-MENA, which is a lot more than the average current Arab MENA person.

    It's pretty clear from DNA evidence you're talking out your arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David24 View Post
    Look at the pictures posted by the OP. If these people don't look mixed with black to you then I recommend some glasses.
    There are Bedouin sects in Syria, southern iraq pigmentation is quite dark generally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    This is cope, obviously most Arab Muslims are more indigenous than Ashkenazi Jews. The SSA in AJs is 2-3%, the SSA in Arab Levantines is 2-6% or so with some outliers. No significant C. Asian DNA, same as Ashkenazi Jews. Complete nonsense post.
    No, they're not more indigenous than Ashkenazi Jews. Have you looked at the pictures posted by the OP? They look almost black. There's no way that native Levantines looked like this—Jews in the Torah and Bible, such as King David were described as light looking, and Druze in IDF look as light as Ashkenazim. The C. Asian ancestry I'm talking about is specifically about the Turks, whom are very anti-Israel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    A lot of Arabs in the area are settled Bedouin rather than 'true' ancient Levantines though, f/e most of Hebron.
    No doubt about that. Hebronites look straight up Arabian. I'd even include Gaza too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    But on the other hand, Ashkenazim are ~45% non-MENA, which is a lot more than the average current Arab MENA person.
    MENA? Who would consider North African DNA as native Middle Eastern? Middle Eastern =/= North African.

    What's this "non-MENA" ancestry anyway?

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