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Thread: Eastern Europeans should not be considered white, because they do not carry the white man's burden

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    Default Eastern Europeans should not be considered white, because they do not carry the white man's burden

    There is one massive difference that disqualifies Eastern Europeans from being considered white in the Western sense, and which in my opinion is the most damning. Eastern Europeans did not colonize, enslave or loot any other peoples.



    "But the Soviet Union in Central Asia dur dur dur" well guess what? Ethnic Russians lived JUST AS BAD as Kazakhs, Uzbeks and Armenians. They also had oppression towards their religious beliefs and their cultural norms were wiped out in the name of communism. They were not FASCIST IMPERIALISTS.

    IN FACT, the Ottomans took over the Balkans and looted much of their wealth. Russia was taken over by communism and suffered IMMENSE poverty as a result. So are we really going to put in Slavs in the same category as Anglos, when in fact their treatment more closely resembles that of POC than it does of Western whites? Eastern European populations also flee their countries in retreat to a luxurious West.

    In fact I believe many Eastern Euros are tired of being accused of having "white guilt" when their ethnicities were more likely to be on a the RECEIVING END of Western imperialism.

    So, in the social/cultural sense, Eastern Euros are no more white than Arabs or Latinos.

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    indeed. as Easterner I feel I am part of another cultural space compared to the West. I don't know how to call it - Eurasian, post-Ottoman - but it looks, feels different and has a different history than the extremely class-divided West, from Middle Ages to today.

    a random village in Kazakhstan is way more similar to a random village in Romania than any random village West of the Iron Curtain.

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    yes. they are Paleos

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    Term "white" is not really connected to those who made colonies.
    Also telling that just white people made colonies and should feel guilt is just a comedy, the people who live today couldn't have influence on actions of ancestors.
    Regarding Eastern Europeans, they are different from Western Europeans in some aspects but not having a colony has nothing to do with counting to "white people" lol, unless you want to call Japanese white

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    I don't agree.Eastern Europeans are white, they just went on a different historical path.

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    Indian street shiter who opened the thread is wrong. My people had colony in India for example. I just don't understand why are brown people like him so obsessed with whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate_Hound View Post
    Eastern Europeans should not be considered white, because they do not carry the white man's burden
    There's no "white man's burden" - this is just extreme left bullshit that has to be firmly rejected. Slavery has been a human universal in all cultures and among all races, until the white man destroyed it for good.

    Eastern Europeans are white, there's no point in deny it.

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    We didn't colonize anyone either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate_Hound View Post
    the Ottomans took over the Balkans and looted much of their wealth.
    Which wealth? to begin with. In fact, Ottomans invested too much in Balkans and its easy too see that in a short Balkan tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Which wealth? to begin with. In fact, Ottomans invested too much in Balkans and its easy too see that in a short Balkan tour.
    Spare us this bullshit. Ottomanist apologists are not tolerated here. From 1300s to 1700s only 10% of Wallachia's territory was populated because permanent settlements in the Danube plain were next to impossible due to constant Ottoman looting and burning.

    Learn fucking history imbecile, not Ottomanist self-serving excuses.

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