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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Not really the same at all, Scotland joined the union willingly by act of parliament, they weren't annexed.
    Indeed, that is what I was going to say. Scottish case has nothing to do with Finnish-Russian topic.
    Also resembles the Catalan-Basque cases, both of them asked for a join, the first to Aragón and the second to Castilla. They asked. They.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Not really the same at all, Scotland joined the union willingly by act of parliament, they weren't annexed.
    Indeed, that is what I was going to say. Scottish case has nothing to do with Finnish-Russian topic.
    Also resembles the Catalan-Basque cases, both of them asked for a join, the first to Aragón and the second to Castilla. They asked. They.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    What shit you dumb cunt? What has this discussion got to do with you, self hating potato picking fuck. No wonder you've deleted your account and remade it 6x you unlikeable vermin. I have lots of Scottish ancestry and live here, I have a right to comment on this issue. Focus on your own failed state.
    Are you Scottish? I thought you were Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Are you Scottish? I thought you were Greek.
    someone else is changing datas, not only me, nice you see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Indeed, that is what I was going to say. Scottish case has nothing to do with Finnish-Russian topic.
    Also resembles the Catalan-Basque cases, both of them asked for a join, the first to Aragón and the second to Castilla. They asked. They.
    In Spain, those who have more logical and historical reasons to become independent are the Canary Islands and then to a lesser extent Aragon, the case of Catalonia does seem ridiculous to me, anyway in Spain only a minority of the population is pro-independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Are you Scottish? I thought you were Greek.
    I am not Greek, my bank account is Greek and my partner. I have some Scottish ancestry; hopefully not related to Ulev (Scottish-German living in East Europe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    In Spain, those who have more logical and historical reasons to become independent are the Canary Islands and then to a lesser extent Aragon, the case of Catalonia does seem ridiculous to me, anyway in Spain only a minority of the population is pro-independence.
    Not that I care about Canary Islands but these folks are just descendants of Spaniards that settled there after the conquest of the islands.
    Ie they are basically Spaniards with a little touch of the indigenous Canarian people, whom were four cats. Think that in the moment of the conquest there were barely 20.000 Guanches in all the islands together according the chronichles, and most of them were killed or sold as slaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    I am not Greek, my bank account is Greek and my partner. I have some Scottish ancestry; hopefully not related to Ulev (Scottish-German living in East Europe).
    Ulev wishes to be German instead Polack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Do you have a Scottish family? Why do they vote every 7 years? They should do it only if they believe that the people want to become independent, take the example of Quebec in Canada only had 2 referendums, when the independentists lost the second and did not do another because despite the differences with the rest of Canada, it still benefited them to continue United.
    I watched the last England vs Scotland game and noticed a lot of anti-English chants from their fans, by the way, I know that's not the issue, but why doesn't England have their own national anthem?
    Yes my other half +family are from North East Scotland.

    Well the vote before 2014 was 35yrs after the previous one, but the Snp have campaigned for another referendum basically since the day after the vote in 2014..

    In rugby Irish, Scots and Welsh always support the team playing England, including France, but everyone is used to that and has a beer afterwards. Football is always different to this of course. The Rangers Celtic issue always complicates things too

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    I think independence is the best way forward for Scotland, the cultural differences between southern England especially and Scotland are too great for their to be much harmony in the long term, i honestly think that Scotland has a more Scandinavian sort of culture, the people are more keen on social solidarity while in the south individualism is king. Scotland seems to be a country where people look out for each other, i noticed that visiting there where you are acknowledged a lot by strangers on trains, in pubs, shop staff etc it is vastly different culturally from a lot of southern England where people generally don't feel comfortable acknowledging strangers mainly due to possible class differences i feel. Scotland i think can thrive outside the union, if the UK can thrive outside the EU which i believe it can why can't Scotland thrive outside the union?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    I think independence is the best way forward for Scotland, the cultural differences between southern England especially and Scotland are too great for their to be much harmony in the long term, i honestly think that Scotland has a more Scandinavian sort of culture, the people are more keen on social solidarity while in the south individualism is king. Scotland seems to be a country where people look out for each other, i noticed that visiting there where you are acknowledged a lot by strangers on trains, in pubs, shop staff etc it is vastly different culturally from a lot of southern England where people generally don't feel comfortable acknowledging strangers mainly due to possible class differences i feel. Scotland i think can thrive outside the union, if the UK can thrive outside the EU which i believe it can why can't Scotland thrive outside the union?
    What you said applies to everywhere in Britain outside SE England/London tbh, not specifically Scotland. SE England/London are very un-British in many ways and much more individualistic/cut throat. You'll find that social solidarity everywhere in the North, Midlands, Wales, etc.

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