Race in the USA vs race in Latin America: do you agree with this quote of mine from another thread?

[Tooting Carmen]

The equality among white men as an utopia by itself, albeit on a limited scale. Very different from the universalism of the French Revolution.

Albeit that France's own colonialism and slave operations were a gross violation of those ideals, but that's another discussion altogether.

[Andullero]

Albeit that France's own colonialism and slave operations were a gross violation of those ideals, but that's another discussion altogether.

Jacobins and communards tried to change that by arming blacks in the Caribbean, but their reign was too brief for it to have made a difference, even if the Republic pays lip service to their ideals. Their case is almost analogous to the one of the Trinitarios/Azules and other liberals here in DR.

[Tooting Carmen]

Jacobins and communards tried to change that by arming blacks in the Caribbean, but their reign was too brief for it to have made a difference, even if the Republic pays lip service to their ideals. Their case is almost analogous to the one of the Trinitarios/Azules and other liberals here in DR.

Well Toussain L'Ouverture, who I know many in this forum utterly fear and despise (not least Dominicans themselves), was nevertheless heavily inspired by the ideals of la Revolution.

[Andullero]

Well Toussain L'Ouverture, who I know many in this forum utterly fear and despise (not least Dominicans themselves), was nevertheless heavily inspired by the ideals of la Revolution.

If you knew that my views on him are more charitable than most, since him (and the Grenadine born Henri Christophe) was less furiously anti-white/anti-mulatto than the rest of his caste. Heck, he even refused to declare independence despite the British goading him incessantly about it. Events have proven his farsightedness in not wanting to take the step in spades, I'd say.

[Tooting Carmen]

If you knew that my views on him are more charitable than most, since him (and the Grenadine born Henri Christophe) was less furiously anti-white/anti-mulatto than the rest of his caste. Heck, he even refused to declare independence despite the British goading him incessantly about it. Events have proven his farsightedness in not wanting to take the step in spades, I'd say.

Well wasn't he the one who led the massacre of the petits-blancs and declared Haiti a free Black republic?

[Andullero]

Well wasn't he the one who led the massacre of the petits-blancs and declared Haiti a free Black republic?

No, that was his second in command, Jean Jacques Dessalines, who stepped up and took charge of the rebellion after the French imprisoned and deported Toussaint to the mountains in the French/German border, where he would die of hypothermia.

[Westbrook]

A girl I dated some years back in the US had a Cuban mother and PR father, both of whom did not hide how happy they were that she was dating a white guy instead of a black guy like her sister

The PR side of my family are super racist, lol, my dear late grandfather used to say things that would make a klansman blush . Although, generally what divides people more is class in LATAM not so much race.

[Ranger0075]

But that is a circular argument: you have to ask yourself why Blacks are usually at the bottom of (Western) society's hierarchy. And when you do so and investigate a little, it might lead to uncomfortable results.

I have asked this here before and I got the answer it is due their low IQ.

So I said there's no societies where blacks are at the top and it was pseudoscience, but users here remembered about Haiti and its black elite after they got independence.

Then I said it is due slavery cause Haiti was made up by slaves and I got laughed at because Sub Saharan Africans are also at the bottom of the "world society" when themselves weren't slavery product.

Even so I kept trying to argue talking about neocolonialism and whatever but then they remembered my country was also colony and we've a good quality of life here while countries like South Africa got more violence since whites fleed from their elite.

So I would ask you this same question for you bcs I really don't know, if you can answer me I would be thankful.

[Tooting Carmen]

I have asked this here before and I got the answer it is due their low IQ.

So I said there's no societies where blacks are at the top and it was pseudoscience, but users here remembered about Haiti and its black elite after they got independence.

Then I said it is due slavery cause Haiti was made up by slaves and I got laughed at because Sub Saharan Africans are also at the bottom of the "world society" when themselves weren't slavery product.

Even so I keep trying to argue talking about neocolonialism and whatever but then they remembered my country was also colony and we've a good quality of life here while countries like South Africa got more violent since whites fleed from their elite.

So I would ask you this same question for you bcs I really don't know, if you can answer me I would be thankful.

It is partly due to the legacy of racism/colonialism/slavery, partly due to their IQ, and partly due to their culture. It is not an either/or answer.

[Tooting Carmen]

A slightly dubious author, but some of what he writes is interesting even so:
https://vdare.com/articles/importing...ial-inequality
https://vdare.com/articles/america-s...d-caste-system