Race in the USA vs race in Latin America: do you agree with this quote of mine from another thread?

[Tooting Carmen]

Or to put it another way: historically, the US has been the equivalent of the hypocritical pro-segregationist politician who has an affair with his Black maid, whereas Brazil has been the equivalent of the hypocritical liberal who preaches anti-racism but beats up his daughter for bringing home a Black man.

(Yes I know I specifically said Brazil, but I think the analogy largely applies to most other Latin American countries too, except maybe the Southern Cone countries, which aren't quite so racially diverse).

[Andullero]

Only applies to some countries now, methinks.

[Tooting Carmen]

Only applies to some countries now, methinks.

Quite possibly. Anyway, what I mean is that the US looks more overtly racist and segregated than (most of) Latin America on the outside, but in private there is actually more integration than meets the eye. In contrast, many Latin American countries may seem to be all about amor, harmonia y mestizaje on the outside, but in private many people have plenty of prejudices and hang-ups of their own.

[Mixdguy17]

Only applies to some countries now, methinks.

I agree with this

Tbh, I have stopped caring a little about these subjects, they have just become so tiresome, the extremes from either side make my head hurt.

[Tooting Carmen]

I agree with this

Tbh, I have stopped caring a little about these subjects, they have just become so tiresome, the extremes from either side make my head hurt.

Sorry if I have upset you mate. I just thought comparing the dynamics of race in different parts of the Americas is a legitimate topic of discussion in an anthro board.

[El_Jibaro]

Quite possibly. Anyway, what I mean is that the US looks more overtly racist and segregated than (most of) Latin America on the outside, but in private there is actually more integration than meets the eye. In contrast, many Latin American countries may seem to be all about amor, harmonia y mestizaje on the outside, but in private many people have plenty of prejudices and hang-ups of their own.

The PR side of my family are super racist, lol, my dear late grandfather used to say things that would make a klansman blush . Although, generally what divides people more is class in LATAM not so much race.

[Tooting Carmen]

The PR side of my family are super racist, lol, my dear late grandfather used to say things that would make a klansman blush . Although, generally what divides people more is class in LATAM not so much race.

Given that PR is a US colony, would you say the dynamics of race there are more like in the US mainland, or more like much of the rest of Latin America?

[Andullero]

The PR side of my family are super racist, lol, my dear late grandfather used to say things that would make a klansman blush . Although, generally what divides people more is class in LATAM not so much race.

Yeah, "hide the dark relative in the backyard before a visit comes", that's how my great generation grandma used to talk. You'd be kicked out of a gathering if you came up with that today, though.

[Mixdguy17]

Sorry if I have upset you mate. I just thought comparing the dynamics of race in different parts of the Americas is a legitimate topic of discussion in an anthro board.

Its is man! I didnt mean to come across as if your thread was upsetting to me, bcs its not at all!. Ik u like to do surveys and be thorough with this kind of things, and best place to do them would be in an anthro board.

What I really meant to say, is that browsing twitter this past few days with so many polirizing subjects and with very little room for opinion (without beign publicly digitally linched), combined with other threads that I have stumbled upon recently in here, or that have been made in these past few days from other users, the mixing topic, or race and similar subjects have exauhasted me a little bit, specially the replies in some, but that was all, nothing to do with u my friend though. Carry on .

[El_Jibaro]

Given that PR is a US colony, would you say the dynamics of race there are more like in the US mainland, or more like much of the rest of Latin America?

Hmm, no more like the rest of LATAM. No one that was born and raised in PR calls themselves a "white Puerto Rican" or an "Afro Puerto Rican", you're just Puerto Rican so it is different in this sense. I would say terms like "blanco", "trigueño", "negro", "jabao" function more like, hmm, like a description I guess but people don't usually define themselves by it, especially not in the city. Although if you go to places like Barranquitas (where my grandfather was from), Cayey, Utuado, Ciales, etc you find a lot of blancos who have been intermarrying with each other forever and very strongly shun against say a trigueño marrying into the family. One of my uncles married a more mixed looking PR and my grandparents didn't go to the wedding, just to give you an idea of the kind of attitudes rural Boricuas have.