Are Ossetians genetically as "Euro" as Central Italians, Mainland Greeks, Albanians?

[kleenex]

I'm not sure if this has been broached on other threads but when playing around with Vahaduo G25, specifically exploring Neolithic/Post Neolithic components of Southern Europeans, Balkanites, and Eastern Populations (Caucasians) that Ossetians could be within the range of other Southern Euros if not for the high CHG. But if I'm not mistaken CHG is a relatively significant Euro component and provided considerable admixture to later Steppe populations. Could we make an argument that Ossetians are favorably linked to Euro populations?
Target: Ossetian
Distance: 2.4200% / 0.02419978
50.4 GEO_CHG
19.2 TUR_Barcin_N
14.8 Yamnaya_UKR
11.6 Levant_PPNB
4.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

[kleenex]

Here's the Armenian result which is significantly more Eastern.
Target: Armenian
Distance: 3.2567% / 0.03256750
30.0 TUR_Barcin_N
24.4 GEO_CHG
21.4 Levant_PPNB
19.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
4.6 Yamnaya_UKR

[kleenex]

Target: Georgian_Laz
Distance: 2.5014% / 0.02501441
46.4 GEO_CHG
31.4 TUR_Barcin_N
14.2 Levant_PPNB
6.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.6 Yamnaya_UKR

[Grogu]

They spoke an indo euro language so yes they are white.

[Dr_Maul]

I wouldn't go as far as calling CHG European, going by that then the average Turk or Iranian is 80% European

[kleenex]

I wouldn't go as far as calling CHG European, going by that then the average Turk or Iranian is 80% European

Some folks have claimed that CHG is much more Euro like than say Iran Ganj Dareh. My point is that compared to other Caucasus populations they have a stronger connection to European populations.

[Dr_Maul]

Some folks have claimed that CHG is much more Euro like than say Iran Ganj Dareh. My point is that compared to other Caucasus populations they have a stronger connection to European populations.

Well CHG is definitely more European than Iran_N for sure. But I am not sure it is actually European overall.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

South Italians are more "Euro" than Ossetians

Distance to:	ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso:RMPR15
0.48532131	Italian_Campania
0.48959348	Italian_Calabria
0.51389280	North_Ossetian
0.51901080	Ossetian

Even Natufians were more Euro than CHG

Distance to:	ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso:RMPR15
0.54956986	Levant_Natufian:I0861
0.56333450	Levant_Natufian_contam:I1072
0.57910634	GEO_CHG:KK1

[Petalpusher]

Depends how you define what is European, but if CHG is a valid European metric then Iranians and even Indians are the most Europeans. What makes some groups of Caucasians Euro leaning is their paleo Eurasian/meso Euro. CHG still captured a bit of that too in itself, as in a bit more than Iran_N but it's still overwhelmingly basal. It still ends up being even more distant than Natufians as seen above (meso Euro being the least). Sometimes it's also about what a group doesnt have, this differentiate north Caucasians from other highly CHG groups, they don't have Oceanian or SSA. Obviously that makes a difference in look, and that is replaced by more west/north Eurasian/IE.

[Ion Basescul]

Depends how you define what is European, but if CHG is a valid European metric then Iranians and even Indians are the most Europeans. What makes some groups of Caucasians Euro leaning is their paleo Eurasian/meso Euro.

Depigmented Indians look kind of European, while Africans for example don't.