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    Quote Originally Posted by SneedsFeedNSeed View Post
    Why not? He seems completely fine with another people calling his grandparents pigs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger0075 View Post
    I am christian-born but I don't believe christian god neither degenerated christian societies

    I am pretty interested to know more about Allah and its beautiful religion.
    this guy can help you


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    ^^ yes, quite similar to you Nurzat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Ofc its no big issue, no sunni madhab would claim the followers of another one are takfiris.
    But another point where I see hanbali strict in a logical sense is praying on graves.

    What is wrong about wahabis?
    Praying on graves is makrooh in the Hanafi school if I remember correctly. Praying to graves and to people is haram in all madhaahib.
    The average person will do like 95% right with common sense and basic rules, and the rest is forgiven if it is unintentional. Islam never was intended to be a pressure cooker for people, it is okay not to know a lot, it is okay to do wrong or make mistakes sometimes, and there is a hadith about it:
    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded; and gain strength by worshipping in the mornings, the afternoons, and during the last hours of the nights." (See Fath-ul-Bari, Page 102, Vol 1).
    As for wahhabis; They are averse to ijma, qiyas, taqlid and they do not stick to madhaahib as they should.
    People do not read all of Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, nor all of Tabari, Ibn Kathir, Taymiyyah etc. It is not expected of anyone. But there are some who do. They know that rasulallah(s.a.w.s.) sometimes urinated standing, sometimes sitting. So this is not a problem.
    The scholars tell the people then that either is fine, so that the people can go on with their day.
    Wahhabis read only one or the other, then say that the scholars are deceiving the people, then they go to do amr bil ma'ruf wal nahiyy an al munkar, and tell others who have the correct opinion(that you can do either) that they are fasiqeen for refusing to conform to their opinion.
    And they consider fasiqeen to be murtadeen. They think Ma'iz Ibn Malik Al Aslami died as a murtad.
    They also think that everything is about religion, that if you make a family tradition to go on a picnic every other Tuesday, it is bid'ah because "it did not exist before and there is no order to do it in Islam".

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    how can a person with a brain believe in an abrahamic religion in the 21 century :facepalm:

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    Quote Originally Posted by FroZzenMind View Post
    how can a person with a brain believe in an abrahamic religion in the 21 century :facepalm:
    Oh it's the current century, is it?
    People in 3 000 BC believed that water is wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SneedsFeedNSeed View Post
    Oh it's the current century, is it?
    People in 3 000 BC believed that water is wet.
    they believed as hard as you do in another god with probably less elaborated phantasy stories bro without disrepect

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    Quote Originally Posted by FroZzenMind View Post
    how can a person with a brain believe in an abrahamic religion in the 21 century :facepalm:
    People in 21 century don't even believe sex is biologic. Is this century standard for intelligent people? Isn't it the other way around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SneedsFeedNSeed View Post
    Praying on graves is makrooh in the Hanafi school if I remember correctly. Praying to graves and to people is haram in all madhaahib.
    The average person will do like 95% right with common sense and basic rules, and the rest is forgiven if it is unintentional. Islam never was intended to be a pressure cooker for people, it is okay not to know a lot, it is okay to do wrong or make mistakes sometimes, and there is a hadith about it:


    As for wahhabis; They are averse to ijma, qiyas, taqlid and they do not stick to madhaahib as they should.
    People do not read all of Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, nor all of Tabari, Ibn Kathir, Taymiyyah etc. It is not expected of anyone. But there are some who do. They know that rasulallah(s.a.w.s.) sometimes urinated standing, sometimes sitting. So this is not a problem.
    The scholars tell the people then that either is fine, so that the people can go on with their day.
    Wahhabis read only one or the other, then say that the scholars are deceiving the people, then they go to do amr bil ma'ruf wal nahiyy an al munkar, and tell others who have the correct opinion(that you can do either) that they are fasiqeen for refusing to conform to their opinion.
    And they consider fasiqeen to be murtadeen. They think Ma'iz Ibn Malik Al Aslami died as a murtad.
    They also think that everything is about religion, that if you make a family tradition to go on a picnic every other Tuesday, it is bid'ah because "it did not exist before and there is no order to do it in Islam".
    Let Religion influence every part of your live, try to live as close as the prophet did, speaks for great dedication and faith. If you geniuely believe in a religion you should take the safest way to jannah, not the bosniak I drink rakija, participate in elections, listen to diyanet bal'am scholars etc. way.

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