How to convert to Islam?

[Ayetooey]

You should read the Quran, learn the 5 pillars, and listen to some Muslim scholars on YouTube before you take the decision to convert. To be fair to yourself you should do the same with Christianity; listen to some proper Christians, read the bible etc before you decide to leave a faith in which you were probably only culturally inclined to not religiously inclined to. I wish you luck with your spiritual journey whatever you decide.

[Teutone]

Yes, the Shahada is enough to become a Muslim. But then, if you don’t practice for example the pillars you mention, like for ex. reciting the obligatory daily prayers, you are considered an apostate, so you can legitimately be killed. And as Qaradawi, one of the most important current Islamic thinkers said, “opposing apostasy is what keeps Islam going”: “if they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today. Islam would have ended since the dead of the prophet. So, opposing apostasy is what kept Islam to this day”.



What should we think about a religion perpetuated thanks to the instillation of such fear, since the origin?

Some points concerning the pillars you evoke:

1. You mention the compulsory giving, the zakat. But who is it destined for?

The surah 9:60 will give us the answer:

“Zakah expenditures are only for the poor and for the needy and for those employed to collect [zakah] and for bringing hearts together [for Islam] and for freeing captives [or slaves] and for those in debt and for the cause of Allah and for the [stranded] traveler - an obligation [imposed] by Allah. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.”

“For the cause of Allah” has always been understood through time as “for those doing the jihad in Allah’s path” (cf. for ex. tafsir Ibn Kathir). So, the zakat is used to finance the jihad!

2. The obligatory prayers include the recitation of the liminary surah Al-Fatiha, which is hostile towards Christians and Jews, as “those who earned God’s anger” are the Jews and “those went astray” are the Christians (cf. for ex. tafsir Ibn Kathir).

3. The five pillars you mention constitute individual obligations. They are the pillars of the individual faith. But there are also the collective obligations or pillars, which are imposed to the Islamic communities and codified in the Shariah. And among them, there’s the jihad.

[frankhammer]

Islam won't ruin any society. Progressism in other side will: drugs, slut music, porn industry, abortion, lgbtqik2oskeepdk+ activism. Take a guess about fertility rate in your country. Can you see a future for your great-grandchildren? It's much likely they won't even exist.

Mate, you were a more enjoyable when you focused on the hairline.

Regarding the rest? Don't read the news, turn off your TV and ignore the BS that doesn't actually affect your life such as LGBTQ. You might find you've been over thinking it all.

Why would you want to stop progress? We need to get off this rock and spread out as our ancestors did. No religion is conducive to this. They hindered us in the past and you want to turn back time?

[Ranger0075]

Mate, you were a more enjoyable when you focused on the hairline.

Regarding the rest? Don't read the news, turn off your TV and ignore the BS that doesn't actually affect your life such as LGBTQ. You might find you've been over thinking it all.

Why would you want to stop progress? We need to get off this rock and spread out as our ancestors did. No religion is conducive to this. They hindered us in the past and you want to turn back time?

Dude, look at my situation here. I live very far from most of you, I am literally in the end of the world if there's one. Between deserts and mountains. And here, even here, I am overexposed to what is happening in your country. American cops have killed certain black guy in 2020 and here I am being overexposed to this even one year later. Can you see the problem here? We have so many problems and their worries are pure agenda, west agenda. I am tired and I have no power to stop it, you know it very well. I believe Islam may be the answer I am looking for, I will confirm it tomorrow. I've created this thread because it is the only place I know there are muslims and I am pretty ignorant about it. I thank for members who helped me I am already reading and looking for yt videos.

[Ranger0075]

Would you like to know what the fertility rate is in the Arab world, my good time bro?

In brackets the rate in 2011.

2.3 (2.6) Morocco
2.9 (2.9) Algeria
2.1 (2.2) Tunisia
2.2 (2.5) Libya
3.3 (3.2) Egypt
2.2 (2.9) Saudi
1.8 (2.1) Qatar
2.7 (2.9) Oman
3.6 (4.6) Yemen
1.9 (2.2) Bahrain
1.4 (1.8) UAE
2.1 (2.2) Kuwait
2.6 (3.6) Jordan
2.0 (2.0) Lebanon
3.5 (4.3) Iraq
4.3 (4.9) Sudan

Every single one is declining. Some by a whole child per woman in just a decade.

For comparison:

2.2 (2.6) India
1.9 (2.0) France
1.6 (1.7) Albania
1.8 (1.9) Sweden
3.0 (3.0) Israel
1.8 (1.9) UK
3.4 (4.0) Zimbabwe
4.7 (5.4) Mozambique
5.2 (6.1) Burundi

Of these, the UK's is actually increasing.

The countries with the highest fertility rates aren't Islamic or Christian, but poor.

Islam won't 'save' you. Islam doesn't make you conservative. It's just an avenue of cope, like liberalism, Taoism, Dungeons and Dragons, everything else.

You cope and then you die.

As I said, Islam won't ruin any society. It's actually good to see their fertility rates, anything above 2 is enough.

[frankhammer]

Dude, look at my situation here. I live very far from most of you, I am literally in the end of the world if there's one. Between deserts and mountains. And here, even here, I am overexposed to what is happening in your country. American cops have killed certain black guy in 2020 and here I am being overexposed to this even one year later. Can you see the problem here? we have so many problems and their worries are pure agenda, west agenda. I am tired and I have no power to stop it. You know it very well. I believe Islam may be the answer I am looking for, I will confirm it tomorrow. I've created this thread because it is the only place I know there are muslims and I am pretty ignorant about it. I thank for members who helped me I am already reading and looking for yt videos.

I am in New Zealand mate. Do you believe we don't get inundated with the same bullshit throughout the MSM? Of course we do. However, you don't need to read it, watch it or be manipulated by them.

Somehow, Indian, Chinese, Maori, Polynesians and every kind of off-white person started whinging about white this and that after that Afro-american was killed. There are no equivalent cases here yet off they went.

Politicians will tinker to settle these people but nothing will change. The majority aren't part of it. So forget it.

Turn that shit off and make your own way in life. These people, these minorities will not affect your life outcome if you do so.

[Longbowman]

As I said, Islam won't ruin any society. It's actually good to see their fertility rates, anything above 2 is enough.

Bro 3 of the ones listed are below 2 (and 2.1 is the replacement rate).

If the same decline over the past ten years is repeated, then at this rate, by 2031, 9 of those countries will be below replacement levels.

Enjoy your cope.

[Kriptc06]

Are you willing to go all in and chop off your foreskin?

[Ranger0075]

Bro 3 of the ones listed are below 2 (and 2.1 is the replacement rate).

If the same decline over the past ten years is repeated, then at this rate, by 2031, 9 of those countries will be below replacement levels.

Enjoy your cope.

Check how Qatar as the richest country per capita has higher fertility rate than countries like Brazil. Isn't it supposed to mean something?

UAE and Kuwait. Both of them richer than Chile or Uruguay by far and both above our fertility rate too.

It's interesting how these countries are resisting in some way despite no reason to. I know as long people move to the metropolitan areas of their countries they are automatically supposed to lower their fertility rates due cost of living and materialistic minded society. As far religion, cultures and idiosyncrasies are directly related to each other there is no poverty-fertility rule.

[Ranger0075]

Are you willing to go all in and chop off your foreskin?

I am already circumcised