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    The background of the modern designation Macedonian can be found in the 19th century,[4] as well as the myth of "ancient Macedonian descent" among the Orthodox Slavs in the area, adopted mainly due to Greek cultural inputs. However Greek education was not the only engine for such ideas. At that time some pan-Slavic propagandists believed the early Slavs were related to the paleo-Balkan tribes. Under these influences some intellectuals in the region developed the idea on direct link between the local Slavs, the Early Slavs and the ancient Balkan populations.
    As a result, massive Greek religious and school propaganda occurred, and a process of Hellenization was implemented among the Slavic-speaking population of the area.[8][9] The very name Macedonia, revived during the early 19th century after the foundation of the modern Greek state, with its Western Europe-derived obsession with Ancient Greece, was applied to the local Slavs.[10] The idea was to stimulate the development of close ties between them and the Greeks, linking both sides to the ancient Macedonians, as a counteract against the growing Bulgarian cultural influence into the region.[11][12] In 1845, for instance, the Alexander romance was published in Slavic Macedonian dialect typed with Greek letters.[13] At the same time the Russian ethnographer Victor Grigorovich described a recent change in the title of the Greek Patriarchist bishop of Bitola: from Exarch of all Bulgaria to Exarch of all Macedonia. He also noted the unusual popularity of Alexander the Great and that it appeared to be something that was recently instilled on the local Slavs.

    As a consequence, since the 1850s some Slavic intellectuals from the area adopted the designation Macedonian as a regional label, and it began to gain popularity.[14] In the 1860s, according to Petko Slaveykov, some young intellectuals from Macedonia were claiming that they are not Bulgarians, but they are rather Macedonians, descendants of the Ancient Macedonians.[15] In a letter written to the Bulgarian Exarch in February 1874 Petko Slaveykov reports that discontent with the current situation “has given birth among local patriots to the disastrous idea of working independently on the advancement of their own local dialect and what’s more, of their own, separate Macedonian church leadership.”[16]

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    So widespread was this Macedonism in 1874 that Skopje voted 91% to join the Bulgarian Exarchate and Ohrid 97% during that very same year.

    Great post!

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    Keep digging Skopjian one day you will find out who you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrant Dink View Post
    So widespread was this Macedonism in 1874 that Skopje voted 91% to join the Bulgarian Exarchate and Ohrid 97% during that very same year.

    Great post!
    From little things big things grow

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    I'd be ashamed to post this text if I was fyromian.

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    there is a guy in youtube Mario`s history, he is North Macedonian, he have some intresting theorys about the history of North Macedonia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    I'd be ashamed to post this text if I was fyromian.
    Doesn't fit the Bulgolian narrative does it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrant Dink View Post
    So widespread was this Macedonism in 1874 that Skopje voted 91% to join the Bulgarian Exarchate and Ohrid 97% during that very same year.

    Great post!
    This includes most of the interior of Northern Greece right?


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    A good balanced view by a Macedonian youtuber on the origins of Macedonism. He places the origins of Macedonism back to 1878, when the treaty of Berlin placed Macedonia back into the hands of the Sultan, overiding the treaty of san stefano which unified all Bulgarians into one unified country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    From little things big things grow
    Right, a little thing hatched by 19th century Serbs which hoped to reduce Bulgarian nationalism so that Serbian nationalism could find a path through Vardar and eventually an Aegean outlet. It's endlessly amusing that the generation of your great-great-great-grandfathers in Ohrid and Skopje voted overwhelmingly to be recognized as Bulgarians, but today you take immense pride in pissing and shitting on their Bulgarian graves. Good job honouring them!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    This includes most of the interior of Northern Greece right?

    Wrong. That's a map of where the Bulgarian Exarchate was active, or claimed it was. A map of where the Exarchate entirely replaced the Patriarchate in Ottoman Europe would exclude most of today's Greek Macedonia and southern parts of Vardar. The Exarchate actually cancelled votes in many of those districts despite obtaining Ottoman approval because it realized it would lose multiple votes, some by large amounts. That would have done severe damage to Bulgarian propaganda efforts.

    As a result, many Slav-speaking villages ended up with both Greek and Bulgarian churches. The Exarchate even bought buildings in towns with little or no Bulgarian populations and installed Bishops just to pretend Bulgarians had a large presence. In Kastoria, Greek Christians petitioned the local Pasha to expel one such Bulgarian Bishop.

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