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    They are not Muslim Greeks, they are Turks, deal with it.

    https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/...lates-intl-law

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    Turkey's pogroms starting in the 1950s reduced the Greeks of Istanbul from 70-80,000 to only 2,000 today. Turkey has lost the moral authourity to say anything about the Muslims of Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrant Dink View Post
    Turkey's pogroms starting in the 1950s reduced the Greeks of Istanbul from 70-80,000 to only 2,000 today. Turkey has lost the moral authourity to say anything about the Muslims of Greece.
    Turkey's mistreatment of it's minorities in the past doesn't justify poor treatment of a Turkic minority in Greece.

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    We will be organizing a protest march tomorrow in Xanthi.

    http://iskeceturkbirligi.org/page.php?ref=oku&eid=4686


    Wednesday’s Greek court ruling denying an application by the Xanthi Turkish Union to reregister came in response to an ECHR ruling from over a decade ago that Greece has never carried out.

    Under the 2008 ECHR ruling, the right of Turks in Western Thrace to use the word "Turkish" in the name of associations was guaranteed, but Athens has failed to carry out the ruling, effectively banning the Turkish group identity.

    Greece’s Western Thrace region is home to a Muslim Turkish community of around 150,000.

    In 1983, the nameplate of the Xanthi Turkish Union (Iskece Turk Birligi) was taken down, and the group was completely banned in 1986, on the pretext that the word “Turkish” was in its name.

    To apply the ECHR decision, in 2017 the Greek parliament passed a law enabling the banned associations to apply for re-registration, but the legislation included major exceptions that complicated the applications.

    Turks of Western Thrace have long decried Greek violations of their rights, from closing down mosques and shutting down schools to not letting Muslim Turks elect their own religious leaders.

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    Cool story of the Sultan trying to establish neo-Ottoman schools and durkify Pomaks.

    Durkey is so kind to Christians, it opened Hagia Sophia as a mosque, gtfo.

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    Thats nice - all the enemies of the state will come out of their rat holes.

    But Pomaks are not part of your ethnicity, genetics are miles apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mentalanesthesia View Post
    Turkey's mistreatment of it's minorities in the past doesn't justify poor treatment of a Turkic minority in Greece.
    You reap what you sow. Never mind that Erdogan's clown show only brings up the issue for domestic consumption, not because they actually care about Thracian Muslims. He's playing you like the fool you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrant Dink View Post
    You reap what you sow. Never mind that Erdogan's clown show only brings up the issue for domestic consumption, not because they actually care about Thracian Muslims. He's playing you like the fool you are.
    This people didn't sow anything and their Turkish identity is not proclaimed by Erdoğan but by themselves. If you see this matter as an eye for an eye situation then i have nothing to say to you just don't act like you are morally superior

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    Quote Originally Posted by mentalanesthesia View Post
    This people didn't sow anything and their Turkish identity is not proclaimed by Erdoğan but by themselves. If you see this matter as an eye for an eye situation then i have nothing to say to you just don't act like you are morally superior
    You were the ones who won the war that led to the 1923 Lausanne Treaty which called both minorities Christian and Muslim, not Greek and Turk. You forced the terms of that treaty on Greece, not the other way around, so live up to your legal AND moral responsibility, just as Greece had to shut up and take it when your grandfathers acted like lunatics in the 1950s and 60s which led to Greeks leaving Turkey.

    Stop wasting my time with your nationalist garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faklon View Post
    Cool story of the Sultan trying to establish neo-Ottoman schools and durkify Pomaks.

    Durkey is so kind to Christians, it opened Hagia Sophia as a mosque, gtfo.
    Western Thrace was the region that first rebelled against the Empire and founded its own Turkish Republic, and actually the first Turkic Republic in history. Masking the government's ambitions with "Sultan's Neo-Ottoman" goals so you can justify your own action is not a very decent way. Eventually, you know the truth, too. The issue has nothing to do with Turkey's policies. It is just the suppression led by the Greek government towards their own minorities.

    Pomaks are not ethnic Turks, which is a fact. However, due to cultural, linguistical, and religious sharing with Turks, they are an inseparable part of Western Thrace Turkishness, even being more radical than an average ethnic Turk when it comes to identification. I can imagine you have deceived by the media which tries to show Pomaks as if they are "actual" Muslim Greeks, but the situation is the exact opposite.

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