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    Here is a map from the PhyloGeographer to help and showing the migratory path of the I haplogroup, which has been dated to 25500 BC, and of these early ancestors.

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    I 25500 BC

    https://i.ibb.co/6BsPkXz/i.png, https://phylogeographer.com/mygrations/?hg=Adam&clade=I

    Is there a divine hand in all history?

    I can't help but believe that there is. I may have to do more research into this issue.


    The Mapmygenome report I received, in November 2022, states that around 70,000 years ago, some men from CT haplogroup had migrated out of Africa by crossing the Red sea and expanded throughout the world. Hence CT is also been referred as Eurasian Adam or Out of Africa Adam. But I would say that they expanded first into the Indian subcontinent and then the world. In fact, the PhyloGeographer maps show, and it is now generally agreed, that all of them first passed through Gujarat. And you could equally well say that the Indian continent was passed through first. It is most noteworthy that all of them passed through haplogroup CT, but that not all of them passed through haplogroup CF. In other words, all of them passed through haplogroup CF as well, with the exception of haplogroup DE. Here are a couple of examples:

    https://i.ibb.co/qgLWzV8/cfcf.png, https://ibb.co/CJLj3XQ, https://i.ibb.co/z4YBG3z/cff.png

    These data also confirm what was described in my CRI Genetics report. As stated in the report, the Gujarat and Rajasthan were the first regions in Asia that were settled by humans migrating out of the Middle East, and for this reason, and for this reason, Gujarati people tend to have more European and Middle Eastern ancestry than other Indian groups. In fact, it was the first non-African region or the first region in the world settled by humans migrating out-of-Africa (OoA), as this map shows. The Mapmygenome report points out "haplogroup C (M130), believed to be associated with first wave of human migration through Indian Coast, had originated 60,000 years ago (shortly after Out Of Africa migration), and expanded through South Asia via Southern Coastal route." It goes on to point out that "haplogroup C1b1a1 - M356 (earlier known as C5) is found in India (Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh) and neighbouring Pakistan, and is believed to have originated in India during the eastward migration to East Asia, at around 30,000 years ago." Once again, this map strongly confirms that haplogroup C originated in the northern and northeastern parts of the Indian continent in about 46800 BC, and in addition this map confirms yet again that haplogroup CT originated in the central part of the Indian continent in about 66500 BC. By now it should go without saying that their traditional migratory routes passed through the Mahagujarat region or area. For it was the sector, district or area in which the first landing was made. For I venture to think that it is correct to say that India is not Gujarat, and vice versa. Gujarat is not only a slightly different South Asian region that speaks yet another language based on Sanskrit and eats yet another version of dal. It is absolutely unique, as Aakar Patel affirmatively and enthusiastically claims. And here's a screenshot of the CRI Genetics report:

    https://i.ibb.co/34xSZ4R/gujju.png

    Another noteworthy point is that the haplogroups CT, CF, and DE originated in the Indian subcontinent, whereas the haplogroups D and E did not, in contrast to the haplogroups C and F, both of which did originate from the Indian continent. Also, this needs to be mentioned that the three basal Eurasian branches, as pointed out by Kivisild (2017), are D, C and F. Haplogroup D, in other words, is a basal Eurasian branch, but haplogroup E is not. See the following examples:

    CT: 66500 BC
    CF: 63900 BC
    DE: 63200 BC
    C: 46800 BC
    F: 46800 BC


    It also remains an open question of whether or not there is a divine hand behind it all or at least behind every single historical event. I'll try to interpret and make more sense of it. In these threads:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...56#post7611856

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...99#post7612499

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    My male relatives are I2a1. If I was born a male I would have it as well. And yeah, we are Slavs

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