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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Yea. But even if we want them, their return to the Serbian ethnos is not possible.

    19th century was missed opportunity to we return Catholic and Muslim Serbs to Serbian identity. Failure is not only because of our inactivity and identification of only Orthodoxy with Serbian ethnos (which stream from the several century-old preservation of Serbian identity by Serbian Orthodox Church), but also due to unfavorable geopolitical circumstances.
    We lost Catholic and Muslim Serbs and someone else took them. There is no need to regret it, there are certainly positive sides as well.
    I think that oportunity was very low.
    Just find several other examples in Europe where members of Orthodox Christianity, Islam and Catholicism form one nation - large family. No, it doesnt exist.

    Islamicized Greeks identified themselves as Turks, islamicized Bulgarians formed their own communty of Pomaks.
    There are no examples of Orthodox-Catholic coegsistance as one people, too.
    Part of Romanians in Transilvania who became Uniates during Austro-Hungarian rule, almost all returned to Orthodoxy after 1918. when Transilvania became part of Romania.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    I think that oportunity was very low.
    Just find several other examples in Europe where members of Orthodox Christianity, Islam and Catholicism form one nation - large family. No, it doesnt exist.

    Islamicized Greeks identified themselves as Turks, islamicized Bulgarians formed their own communty of Pomaks.
    There are no examples of Orthodox-Catholic coegsistance as one people, too.
    Part of Romanians in Transilvania who became Uniates during Austro-Hungarian rule, almost all returned to Orthodoxy after 1918. when Transilvania became part of Romania.
    Albanians are only Balkan nation with more then one religion. They are Muslims, Orthodoxes and Catholics (Muslim Albanians are divided on Sunni and Bektashi).
    Number of declared Serbs, Greeks, Bulgarians, Macedonians and Romanians who are not Orthodoxes is very small and not worth mentioning. Same goes for declared Croatians who are not Catholics. Declared Bosniaks who are not Muslims doesn't exist at all.

    I heard for returning of Romanian Uniates in Orthodoxy. Same happened in Belarus where majority of people became Uniates in the time of Polish-Lithuanian rule, and almost all returned to Orthodoxy when Russian empire took Belarus.
    In Dalmatia in Drniš and Vrlika areas part of Orthodoxes from some villages converted to Greek Catholicism 1832-42. In the next 100 years most of them returned to Orthodoxy, minority became Catholics and they are Croatians today. Uniates completely disappeared in that areas in 1930s.
    On Žumberak about 6000 Orthodoxes converted to the Greek Catholicism in 17th century. Some of them later became Catholics and some stayed Uniates, both are Croatians today. Only few individuals from Žumberak returned from Greek Catholicism and Roman Catholicism to Orthodoxy, but when they moved from Žumberak in some other more Orthodox regions (Kordun, Banija, Vojvodina etc) like family of our writer Milorad Pavić. Greek Catholic church of Croatia today have about 40 000 believers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    And nearly entire orthodox population in Bosnia, Croatia and Montenegro (excluding upper Podrinje and northern MNE) is of ex-Catholic origin. And?
    You can continue to spread your lies as long as you want, it's not that they brought much success to Serb cause.

    Leave Croats alone, thanks.
    In the legends of some clans and brotherhoods from northern Montenegro Macure are marked as Latini.

    Macure left Lim valley l over 500 years ago and migrated towards the west, because Vaspjevići pushed them.

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