Do you agree that the following sexual double standards still exist?

[Creoda]

Here's a serious one. A 30-year-old man, who had sex with a 16-year-old girl, won't be treated the same as a 30-year-old woman who had sex with a 16-year-old boy. Both older men and younger boys may even joke about the latter. Should double standards ("where were these hot teachers when I was in high school?") apply in these situations?

It doesn't matter, 'society' - both men and women instinctively tended to agree on most of the sexual double standards that went both ways, and unconsciously enforced them. The problem is that leftists/feminists now endlessly cry and campaign about the double standards against women, while ignoring or demanding more against men, even when there's already a bias against them.

[Anglo-Celtic]

It doesn't matter, 'society' - both men and women instinctively tended to agree on most of the sexual double standards that went both ways, and unconsciously enforced them. The problem is that leftists/feminists now endlessly cry and campaign about the double standards against women, while ignoring or demanding more against men, even when there's already a bias against them.

I see your point. I think that there are double standards because of penetration and size. The first scenario bothers me more. That wouldn't be the case if the woman coerced a smaller, weaker boy.

[Creoda]

I see your point. I think that there are double standards because of penetration and size. The first scenario bothers me more. That wouldn't be the case if the woman coerced a smaller, weaker boy.

Of course it does, and why go against yours, or most people's natural instinct, which would be the same. On that or any issue.

Of course the law is different though, and should be applied based on reasoning, not instinct/emotion.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Of course it does, and why go against yours, or most people's natural instinct, which would be the same. On that or any issue.

Of course the law is different, and should be applied based on reasoning, not instinct/emotion.

That's true. Judge each case or crime on its own merits. For instance, I read a story about a butch, obese woman who forced herself on a smaller, weaker high school boy, and she should be punished to the full extent of the law. There's no "where was she when I was young?" about that one.

[Celestia]

Yes there are obvious double standards but it’s lessening and I’m not entirely sure that’s a good thing. We live in a very hypocritical time where hyper-sexual women are labeled as whores yet can make as much money if not more via Onlyfans vs. having a degree. And this hyper-sexuality is being applauded by women’s empowerment. It’s a joke.

[de Burgh II]

I think it is the opposite nowadays; our society is more liberal and open-minded. If anything, our society is becoming more hyper-sexualized and dumber. This external pressure exists in the media, music industry and television in general. Hence, it is subjective and dependent on who is viewing it.

[Smitty]

I agree with all three points, though (1) and (2) aren't up for much discussion in my world. Where I disagree with you (as I have stated before) is that I don't consider them true double standards. There is a reason for all three, and that is that women tend to be more traditional and chaste than men. You think society has forced them into that behavior. I think it is innate. Either way, that is why they are judged more harshly when they do step outside societal norms.

[Smitty]

As for (4), that is only because, again, men tend to indulge their sexual desires more than women. So lesbianism has an appeal that male homosexuality does not. And in today's celebration of all things degenerate, women are actually being encouraged towards lesbianism. If some ostensibly straight women dabble in it, that is why.

[rothaer]

What about no 4, which I added later?

(4) Yes, indeed.
(With a reservation for homosexual men-looking women doing that. One at least needs some seconds to re-orientate, before being able to mentally connect to that due to the insight they actually are women. ;-) )

[Ylla]

I think those double standards will always exist. I don't know if it's a good or bad thing. 3 exists because women are the backbone of an ethnic group and carry forward the language, culture and traditions, which is why it's more difficult for women to marry out of tribal ethnicities than men. If men decide to marry a foreign woman, his female relatives will teach her so it's not a problem.