The Black Sun/Schwarzesonne

[Baron Samedi]

Black sun was created under the neocon religiosity by the kind of Von List and babayaga HP Blavatsky with some inspiration came from traditional christian dialectic debate between the evil and good, a kind of hype, self induced frenziness. It is not a really powerful vessal with any traceable tradition. Just a new brand name for the Dr Faustus dog.

This symbol goes back to the Alemanii in old Germania. Do some research.

[Magister Eckhart]

it is totality. all that is and was, but above all.. all that may and will be. Therein lies the infinite mystery for man to understand.
The sieg is not there by accident, its all about conquering the world... but above all yourself.

For without self-discipline man is but a hollering monkey.

Agreed on most points. The symbol is certainly a whole, but it is debateable whether it is a totality or not because of what it represents: the solar symbolism permeates the symbol, but the actual spirit of the emblem does not seem to transcend its solar origins and solar focus. Unless you elevate the sun to the highest point of worship and religious devotion, it is hard to call a solar symbol truly "total".

This symbol goes back to the Alemanii in old Germania. Do some research.

Which begs the question: is it purely an Allemanni symbol or does it permeate the whole of ancient Germanic religion? We see the Trunhold Sun Chariot, which certainly indicates that a solar cult was prevalent elsewhere, but the Black Sun appears only on the continent, and the Zierscheibe do not seem to appear among any other tribe. Further, we know the symbol to be associated with Allemannic funeral rites - does that make the Black Sun a symbol of a death cult, perhaps?

The symbol has a lot of questions attached to it, without a doubt. What is further doubtless, however, is that it does have ancient origins, however alchemical and hermetic the Wewelsburg symbol might be.

[sean]

Black Sun was a design commissioned by Heinrich Himmler in the late 1930s for his remodel of Wewelsburg castle, there aren't any examples of it existing before then, the sun is a circle with sig runes around it, he based it on the Arthurian legend of the round table, the runes signify twelve generals loyal to the SS just as there were twelve knights in the stories.

All the esoteric stuff people are presumably saying in this thread is after-the-fact interpretation because nothing is known about it. The general idea is that the Schwarzesonne is symbolic of the mystic energy that would renew the Aryan race.

It's interesting just how much thought was put into it by neo-Nazis today. It entered the visual language of the far right post-war as part of the flood of credulous writings on Nazi occultism in the 1950s, inspired in no small measure by the former SS man Wilhelm Landig who built a following in Austria using the black sun as a symbol to circumnavigate the banning of more conventional Nazi iconography. Landig is also the patient zero for a lot of the Nazi occult mythology that seems to keep low budget broadcasters so busy, secret Nazi UFOs and hollow earth expeditions etc.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

We have all heard about the Black Sun Symbol. Is it really a pagan symbol? Or a Contemporanean fabrication?

[Odin]