The Black Sun/Schwarzesonne

[Baron Samedi]

I wanted to get a discussion going about this seemingly powerful symbol.

I actually want to get it tattooed onto me, but I don't truly know [I]why.[I]

It remains a mystery to me, it's obviously 12 Sig runes, but how can we, esoterically speaking, USE it?

The floor is yours, gents.

[Vril-Ya]

An incredibily important symbol that resonates with us on many levels.. Many of us can feel it, that is why you are drawn to it. It is a combination of at least 3 powerful runes.
Many things are spoken about it... most in error in my opinion. Discernment needs to be used to a very high level.
A whole series of books could be written on this symbol alone.
1111 is esoterically connected to the black sun.. not widely known i dont think.
Great topic... very important symbol to many.

[Vril-Ya]

you can use it to awaken, it is related to chakra spin and therefore most powerful.

[Baron Samedi]

you can use it to awaken, it is related to chakra spin and therefore most powerful.

All chakras, or just the Manipura?

[Vril-Ya]

All chakras, or just the Manipura?

this is it you see friend... once that is open , you are then a branch of the great work.. a work in progress... so to speak. It wont finish then until you are dead, crazy or fully awakened with full activation.
Whatever is meant to be.. It is possible that the symbl will not aid you.. it does not work like that.
It is not something to be played with.. It can kill you with ease. The Power is incredible. Coming out of these vessels in beautiful swirling patterns of sheer energy.. emanating metres and metres away.. Lit up like las vegas for those with eyes to see.

[Magister Eckhart]

The Black Sun is a beautifully versatile form because of how many symbols it joins together; many see sowilo of the Sun-rays, while others will notice the triple swastika, which itself is part of a triple Sun-cross. The twelve runes as twelve rays is also significant. Numerically and runically speaking, the symbol is the height of sun-worship; it is the Germanic equivalent of the Egyptian Aten. The captivating quality likely derives from the double motion of the disc-- the first layer of swastikas rotates the eye to the right, while the second layer of sowilo runes rotates the eyes to the left.

It is not, however, a total symbol, but is almost entirely devoted to solar worship; it is restricted in that regard. However, it does become a central symbol.

Of course, it is also a largely untrustworthy symbol, since its first occurrence in the form displayed here was in the mid-17th century. The likely Hermetic influence makes this particular form almost as Semitic as it is Germanic. Powerful a symbol as it may be, with real psychological effects, its history will be worrisome, to say the least, to the Folkish Heathen and especially to the purist.

[Vril-Ya]

It will be worrisome for the catholic church that is for sure.

[Magister Eckhart]

It will be worrisome for the catholic church that is for sure.

Here I am genuinely trying to contribute something helpful, and this is the response I get. Did you even bother reading my post or did you just see "Roman Catholic" and decide that it was your moment to be snarky to the Christ-God?

Just because I became a Roman Catholic doesn't mean I forgot all my learning as a Heathen. I did a lot of work on the history and symbolism behind the Black Sun because, like Helson, I was fascinated by it. As a devotee of Odin, one of my chief foci was Runeology; one doesn't simply forget everything one reads and all the hypotheses one proposes because of a religious conversion. I came to Christianity through my study of Heathenry; maybe others can too - in either case we're all believers in something greater and something eternal, and if its good enough for God to work with its good enough for me to work with.

EDIT: Actually, I just saw your join date so it makes sense that you wouldn't know about my Heathen past. I sort of take for granted that I'm a well-known personality on these boards.

[Saturni]

I think of the Black Sun as a talisman to ward off unwholesome Xtians.

[Wadjet Horus]

Black sun was created under the neocon religiosity by the kind of Von List and babayaga HP Blavatsky with some inspiration came from traditional christian dialectic debate between the evil and good, a kind of hype, self induced frenziness. It is not a really powerful vessal with any traceable tradition. Just a new brand name for the Dr Faustus dog.