Can Muslims have sex outside of marriage?

[jfgh676]

I grew up in western standpoint of view so i grew up seeing sex as something for fun.But believe me it is 1000x times better when you put it aside and do it when its the right time with the right person,especially married.

[DarkSecret]

Well, I "can".

[DarkSecret]

I grew up in western standpoint of view so i grew up seeing sex as something for fun.But believe me it is 1000x times better when you put it aside and do it when its the right time with the right person,especially married.

Whaaat? What if you marry at your 35? You won't be able to have sex if you wait that long. How will you learn? That's bizarre.

[jfgh676]

Whaaat? What if you marry at your 35? You won't be able to have sex if you wait that long. How will you learn? That's bizarre.

No problem if you learn at 35 or 25,i don't think it will be weird since your partner will surely be a virgin too and the feeling of learning together and consuming the virginity this way is very much better than this one night stand/casual sex culture that is prevalent nowadays.

[Östsvensk]

Yes, with slaves and concubines.

Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek (them in marriage) with Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) from your property, desiring chastity, not committing illegal sexual intercourse, so with those of whom you have enjoyed sexual relations, give them their Mahr as prescribed; but if after a Mahr is prescribed, you agree mutually (to give more), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise. - Koran 4:24

Certainly will the believers have succeeded: They who are during their prayer humbly submissive And they who turn away from ill speech And they who are observant of zakah And they who guard their private parts Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed - Koran 23:1-6

And those who guard their private parts, Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they are not to be blamed - Koran 70:29-30

[Laly]

Yes, with slaves and concubines.

Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek (them in marriage) with Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) from your property, desiring chastity, not committing illegal sexual intercourse, so with those of whom you have enjoyed sexual relations, give them their Mahr as prescribed; but if after a Mahr is prescribed, you agree mutually (to give more), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise. - Koran 4:24

Certainly will the believers have succeeded: They who are during their prayer humbly submissive And they who turn away from ill speech And they who are observant of zakah And they who guard their private parts Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed - Koran 23:1-6

And those who guard their private parts, Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they are not to be blamed - Koran 70:29-30

Yes, indeed, and Suad Saleh, Professor at Al-Azhar, the most important sunni institution, recalls that:

[DarkSecret]

In Iraq American soldiers also raped women. It's war unfortunately anything goes.

[Laly]

In Iraq American soldiers also raped women. It's war unfortunately anything goes.

It doesn't have anything to do with a religion's ethics advocating rape. And war in Islam has a very large sense, as the Dar-al-Harb (House of War) is constituted by the lands of people not ruled by Islam. Muslims are at war among miscreants, and their war is offensive.

[DarkSecret]

It doesn't have anything to do with a religion's ethics advocating rape. And war in Islam has a very large sense, as the Dar-al-Harb (House of War) is constituted by the lands of people not ruled by Islam. Muslims are at war among miscreants, and their war is offensive.

You cannot just take a female and make her a slave. There are rules. Her husband must be dead and you must be able to treat her justly as you do to your other wives. What will you do with the female prisoners then? You can't just feed them in a cage forever. This is an option to give them another life. When you take surahs bluntly out of context it leads you to misinterpretation.

[Laly]

You cannot just take a female and make her a slave. There are rules. Her husband must be dead and you must be able to treat her justly as you do to your other wives. What will you do with the female prisoners then? You can't just feed them in a cage forever. This is an option to give them another life. When you take surahs bluntly out of context it leads you to misinterpretation.

So you condone all that ugly Islamic ideology, as I see...

And no, the husband doesn't need to be dead:

Abu Sa’id Al Khudri said “The Apostle of Allaah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of Apostle of Allaah were reluctant to have relations with the female captives because of their pagan husbands. So, Allaah the exalted sent down the Qur’anic verse “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hand posses.” This is to say that they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period. (Quran 4,24)

Sahih Muslim 83432:

Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's Messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran 4:. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).